Mafia #29 Biological Badlands #2

[plantling]

Oh and Grins/JP and Grins/Catfish. Just to be fair to you Grins.

I really must get some shuteye now. More tomorrow.

 

[Grins]

I am curious about who I could be on a team with. I really can't think of anyone I might be on a team with.

Like I said, I'm having more luck approaching it from the other angle and even then that will probably not be useful until we know something more from Bala.

Cat, do I think everyone that thinks Zig is innocent is evil? No, most likely not. But JL says he didn't have Zigs back. I showed differently. There will always be people that don't agree, doesn't make them evil there has to be other factors.

So you think that Cat is innocent because he is playing like a new player might without the benefit of an experienced coach? Although I'm not fundamentally against that, I can't help but question why at the same time you have been thinking that Zig could be Dr. Gene and acted on his own and hit ZSand? Why the benefit of the doubt with Cat and not Zig?

now with that said going back in the posts you will see grin supporting zig so with this said

I RETRACT MY VOTE TO GENETICLY TEST GRINS even thou i still have a funny feeling about not sure what it is will have to wait for more information

OK, something isn't sitting right for me here and its that Ice mentions possible flaws in your posts and you're now retracting your vote against me? Why is Ice so much more convincing to you than others?

Oh and Grins/JP and Grins/Catfish. Just to be fair to you Grins.

Thanks for considering the list. If you're as good as a player as I read about I too would like to see more of your thoughts tommorrow.

 

[johnlarson66]

It wasn't in the morse code itself. Its mixed in among the code. Doesn't matter as I posted above who it was and why I thought so. I could tell early on but didn't want to say until I saw more. I feel safe in my assessment of Cat.

I didn't ask you why you thought me evil. I asked what you didn't like about my answer about Zig that you asked me.Also are you satisfied with my answer on having Zigs back?


Cat, do I think everyone that thinks Zig is innocent is evil? No, most likely not. But JL says he didn't have Zigs back. I showed differently. There will always be people that don't agree, doesn't make them evil there has to be other factors.

I agree with your assessment of Cat. I think I posted that also. I still have not found the post where someone thought that Cat, Zig and Grins were on the evil team. I will look more tonight. I will also find where I said that I had Cat leaning innocent.

I would not say I had Zigs back, but you are correct that I have him leaning innocent and have spoken up. Before the hit, I would have been okay with testing him, but now I am not.

What is odd for me this round is more people look innocent and no one is really jumping out as evil. I really thought Lady G was evil and would have bet that judgemax was. Instead of everyone looking evil, everyone looks innocent.

Because of this, I really do not have strong convictions on anyone. Even though I have you leaning evil and the noobs as leaning innocent, it is not that big of a differnce. I still feel very much in the dark.

Behind Ice, I have CL, HN and Ogre. Heck I will do a useless day 2 scaled list.

 

[johnlarson66]

Ice - 3
Cory L - 4
Hooked - 4
Ogre - 4
Jpap - 4
jl66 - 5
Grins - 6
Plant - 6
Zig - 7
Catfish - 7
Beth - innocent - dead UD
Lady - innocent - dropped out irl issues
Judge - innocent - tested by town
Zsand - innocent - hit by evils

Let's say there are 4 or 5 evils, I do not think my top 4 or 5 are all on the same team, this list will change based on the events of the next night fall. I agree with a lot of what Grins has posted about who is NOT together.

This is also a day 2 list, not much to go on.

 

[johnlarson66]

wow im glad i went to the fish auction today with all the crap that went on today im also glad to see and end to all the morse code but im still all lost about this whole game wow

Well atleast you were reading it. If anything that has you leaning towards innocent.

Here is where I stated my thoughts about Cat.

 

[johnlarson66]

We have to narrow our choices, we are giving the Evils room to hide.

I retract my vote for Zigman and vote to genetically test Grins.

My suspects are Catfish, Grins, Zigman, ...

Whoa, not what I expected. I thought it was CL or jpap that made this post, it was ZS.

Things that make you go hmmmmm.

 

[johnlarson66]

B - I - N - G - O

I retreact my vote for Lady G and vote to judgemax

I expected for her to post after Bingo and she did not. She was reading the thread during a lot of the morse code stuff and did not post. Then after the morse code stuff is stopped, she posts.

My other top suspects are:

catfish69hunter - mostly for stating he could be a power role.
hooked newbie - just always a good suspect.

I wanted to bring this forward, I forgot about where catfish was hinting he could be harpo.

 

[IceH2O]

So you think that Cat is innocent because he is playing like a new player might without the benefit of an experienced coach? Although I'm not fundamentally against that, I can't help but question why at the same time you have been thinking that Zig could be Dr. Gene and acted on his own and hit ZSand? Why the benefit of the doubt with Cat and not Zig?

I'm not sure why this comment came with this quote as they have nothing really in common. But I'll answer anyway. Cat follows the flow. He makes a case then when confronted with an answer retracts it. It is sort of bush kicking, evils don't need to flow. Actually they prefer not to flow as to not have their names attached with to many people.

I already explained why Zig could have acted on his own. I have acted many times on my own or was given the benefit of sending in whoever I wanted to hit. It was late in the day and maybe no one was around and Zig got nervous that Zsand was on his trail. He doesn't know not to hit Zsand, so to get rid of him he does then the other evils go into damage control. I didn't really like Zigs over reaction to Zsand being hit during the night fall posts either.

I wanted to bring this forward, I forgot about where catfish was hinting he could be harpo.

So where does he sit now? You just pulled an Ogre.Your list has him at innocent but you brought forward a post in which you thought he was evil after you thought he was innocent. When did he switch back to innocent?

Even if he is Harpo, its a weak PR and is pretty meaningless to come out. If Harpo is killed the vials go to someone else,its not like they disappear from the game.

For now I vote to genetically test Zigman

I want to make sure I have a vote in and he doesn't seem to be in danger.I also want to see what transpires today.

Zig do me a favor and list of who you have voted for,including any retractions, and your suspect list. That way I don't have to search later after work as I might not have much time. If you're an innocent you shouldn't mind helping me out here.

 

[IceH2O]

This has really been bugging me.

Grins.

JL was on LG.

JL was the 1st one on an innocent and dead JM. (sounds nasty doesn't it)

But I'm the one getting the flack for voting LG? My case was fluff, well what about JL?

Then you leave JL off your list of who is not on a team.

Just something that bothered me and I thought should be mentioned.

 

[IceH2O]

Its ok Zig, I had enough time to look myself..

you Ice & Noob...
so far..

you=JL

not sure what you think I missed. If that were entirely true then I would have voted for JL, the guy who started the MC BS... I could see where You would be overly defensive, to the town, because maybe you are one of the evil scientists, trying too hard to convince the town you are innocent and on our side... I'll be watchin you too buddy...

talking to Zsand

you continue to talk to catfish AND me.
You have continued to bulk us together.

You and Zsand are definately in KAhoots or whatever its called where you are from.

you=Plantling

the "you" below was directed towards Plantling..

I retract my vote for Hooked,and vote to geneticaly tese Zsandman

I think you are the mastermind behind all of this evil, since you seem to know what everyone else means to say..

Before i forget, I'll post my vote now.
My feelings havent really changed since yesterday so,

I vote to geneticaly test Cory Lover

This post was made on the 1st day of the 2nd day cycle. If he thought Cory was evil the day before then why isn't it in his list of suspects and why did he vote Zsand and not Cory?


So his list is

JL
Ice
HN
Zsand
Plantling
Cory

he voted for HN retracted to Zsand. Then for Day 2 has voted for Cory, who was never on his list,though he says he suspected him the day before which would have been vote day.

So Zig, on the list above what are your feelings of these players now?


I'm trying to see where you can be innocent, I just don't see it. My vote is pretty much to keep me from a possible UD,though I'll probably be home before 8. My 2nd choice would be Jpap.