Mafia #29 Biological Badlands #2

[Hooked Newbie]

You're the master, you tell me.

p.s. you need to upgrade your beer selection.

You claimed I did something. I'm asking what leads you to that claim. Why turn the question back to me without answering?

Not when I'm prescribed muscle relaxers. I'd be drinking water, but ran out. Yes, I drink bottled water. I'd drink tank water before I drank straight tap here.

 

[catfish69hunter]

well i will check these posts in the morning i got tanks to set up well see you when the sun shines in a different light

 

[IceH2O]

Tonight officially sucked.

I'm starting to wonder if I read my PM wrong and am actually an evil scientist.I've either been way off base or was right to begin with and didn't follow my feelings.

One good thing has occurred though, maybe.

If we were assuming 4 ES then with 8 players left it would be tied. But a vial was used and swapped someone. They had to have swapped to innocent or the evils would have won tonight.
So I'm guessing its 5-3 now innocents ahead.

Now we know that 2 people are together on the innocents team. So they have to have a good idea through investigations plus themselves to who is what. If they have found innocents with each investigation then I believe they can safely come out with the info. That would give us 4 known innocents. If they've found 1 of each then maybe not so safe. If they found 2 evils we wouldn't be in this boat.


Who is left:

Ice
Grins
HN
Ogre
Zig
Cory
Cat
Plant

2 of them are Bio Engineers and 1 is Hypo that leaves 2 regular innocents and 3 evil scientists.

K back to Big Brother.

I'll pop back on after.

 

[Hooked Newbie]

well i will check these posts in the morning i got tanks to set up well see you when the sun shines in a different light

After the night we had (2nd in a row), that's all you have to say? You'll check in the morning...

I vote to genetically test Catfish. I doubt this will change. I am curious about Zigman narrowly escaping twice in a row though.

 

[Grins]

You claimed I did something. I'm asking what leads you to that claim. Why turn the question back to me without answering?

1) you're smarter than that as I said on day one, you'd not leave an obvious trail and things like you being on JPap immediately after night one could easily be explained whether you are mafia or innocent. 2)after what just happened last night I am not feeling especially delighted at my own ability to read into what others have said.

I'm starting to wonder if I read my PM wrong and am actually an evil scientist.

Could you go back and check it and let us know? :silly: Having at least one evil right would be nice.

Now for everyone else...I've not seen Ice and HN really testing one another at all in this game. I've seen them test others. But not one another, and if they are confused as they say they are,...why not? It isn't as if they don't know the other's strengths and weaknesses in playing this game.

Cory, Ogre, Plant you 3 especially have seen them play often. Are you as uneasy about that as me?

 

[Hooked Newbie]

1) you're smarter than that as I said on day one, you'd not leave an obvious trail and things like you being on JPap immediately after night one could easily be explained whether you are mafia or innocent. 2)after what just happened last night I am not feeling especially delighted at my own ability to read into what others have said.

Could you go back and check it and let us know? :silly: Having at least one evil right would be nice.

Now for everyone else...I've not seen Ice and HN really testing one another at all in this game. I've seen them test others. But not one another, and if they are confused as they say they are,...why not? It isn't as if they don't know the other's strengths and weaknesses in playing this game.

Cory, Ogre, Plant you 3 especially have seen them play often. Are you as uneasy about that as me?

I wish I knew whether Ice was on my side or not. Like I said, his posts early on day one (in morse) tended to make him look innocent. I am definitely looking at him, but if he's evil he's changed up his game a whole bunch. I know it's a pain and everyone can gripe about it (Ogre, feel free), but please review the Morse stuff and let me know what you think. Google "morse code translator", the top choice is the one I was using. I'm at a freaking loss. I do still think Cat is evil, but that probably doesn't mean much since I was sure of JM and Pappy.

Why are there multiple colors in your post?

 

[IceH2O]

to genetically test.....

ice (2) by ogre 348 jpap 533

zig (3) by ice 498 plnt 509 jl66 510

cory (1) by zig 448

jpap (3) by grns 505 cory 526 hk 529

hook (1) by cat 551

all votes in....

about 1 1/4 hrs to night fall.....


PMs or e-mails as required....

Bala sees a new nightfall and indecision amongest the Townies...once again not being able to pull consenus from just 10 folks ...how can they fight things unseen, if they can't see the obvious...

After the night we had (2nd in a row), that's all you have to say? You'll check in the morning...

I vote to genetically test Catfish. I doubt this will change. I am curious about Zigman narrowly escaping twice in a row though.

Really good point. He didn't want to be the nail in the coffin. Could Zig be innocent? Cat had a chance to tie it up between Jpap Zig and me or take out one or the other.

Bobs clue has me leaning in that direction.

But the thing that throws me are the votes. Discount Jpaps vote for me and you have Ogre Zig and Cat as lone votes. But at the time we were thinking there should be 4 evils.That means at least 1 had to be on Jpap or Zig. Could there have only been 3 ES to start and its either 6-2 or an innocent was turned tonight and made it 4-4? I doubt it would have started with 3 ES though, seems to low a number. If I had to look at the votes and assume someone on Jpap or Zig was evil I'd have to lean to Cory. He has been very indecisive this game.

So I guess I'm leaning Ogre Cat Zig and Cory if there were 4 to start. But still thinking 1 was changed, just don't know which one.

 

[Cory Lover]

Ahhh, I feel sick. This is really not good and I'm at a loss.

Now for everyone else...I've not seen Ice and HN really testing one another at all in this game. I've seen them test others. But not one another, and if they are confused as they say they are,...why not? It isn't as if they don't know the other's strengths and weaknesses in playing this game.

Cory, Ogre, Plant you 3 especially have seen them play often. Are you as uneasy about that as me?

Yeah, I feel HN hasn't pressed on people as much as he normally does. Each game they usually go at it to some extent. The only reasons I can think they are not is A) they are on the same team B) they both think the other is innocent (which would be truly odd) C) craziness lol

Before nightfall, I posted that if jpappy or Zig are evil, the other one is most likely evil, and if one of them shows up innocent, the other is most likely innocent as well. My reasoning for that is that if one were evil, and the other innocent, I'm sure at least one evil would have saved the other evil from a tie. So if I follow that reasoning, Zig probably is innocent. I'm by no way clearing him, I just feel that there is a greater chance he is innocent then I did before night.

My suspects:

catfish
HN
Ice

 

[IceH2O]

1)

Cory, Ogre, Plant you 3 especially have seen them play often. Are you as uneasy about that as me?

To tell you the truth I was thinking about that today. It makes me real uneasy when HN doesn't attack me. But I haven't felt that vibe from him. He hasn't really done anything to look at as evil.
I haven't hit on an evil yet unless Zig turns up evil. HN hasn't hit an evil yet and neither have you Grins. So using votes has been hard to use as a base.

I can't see placing a vote until I see if I can tell if someone has been changed and in which direction. I don't want to place a vote on an evil and they ended up being turned innocent.

But I listed my top 4 suspects in an above post so thats who I'm looking at the most.

 

[Hooked Newbie]

An ACville resident, who thinks they are well hidden, falls asleep.

Such folly in a Badland.

The injection is smooth, without any notice by the recipient...

The victim has a completely opposite point of view as to their purpose in life...

This to me looks like possibly Plant was turned. Didn't Bob use green when something happened with her before? And she does lay low. Was she turned good or evil though?

Really good point. He didn't want to be the nail in the coffin. Could Zig be innocent? Cat had a chance to tie it up between Jpap Zig and me or take out one or the other.

Bobs clue has me leaning in that direction.

But the thing that throws me are the votes. Discount Jpaps vote for me and you have Ogre Zig and Cat as lone votes. But at the time we were thinking there should be 4 evils.That means at least 1 had to be on Jpap or Zig. Could there have only been 3 ES to start and its either 6-2 or an innocent was turned tonight and made it 4-4? I doubt it would have started with 3 ES though, seems to low a number. If I had to look at the votes and assume someone on Jpap or Zig was evil I'd have to lean to Cory. He has been very indecisive this game.

So I guess I'm leaning Ogre Cat Zig and Cory if there were 4 to start. But still thinking 1 was changed, just don't know which one.

I'm not sure about the count. I'd love it if there were only 2 left, but that seems unlikely. The possible team of Ogre, Cat, Zig, Cory is looking like a strong possibility. I'm willing to test the theory on Cat. I keep changing my mind and it's screwed me so far. Unless someone comes out as Gene, I think I'm good where I'm voting.