Mafia #33 - Bruce Campbell Vs. Army of Darkness

[dirtydawg10]

I vote to lynch pixl8r....

I know, it is early and most folks haven't even posted, not that I care about that.

you missed 11 players not having the sack to lay a vote early and help the town....

Apparently you do care

What is your plan if the chosen turn by Evil Ashley is the final choice for a lynch? Do they get an alternate choice, or they up a creek with out a paddle?

I am thinking about who I would pick...brb..

You are thinking far to often about what you would do if you were EA. In the first post above you even post in the feminine to lead people to think EA is female and to deflect attention away from yourself.

Lady... I have played one or two of these games and even modded a similar number. If I was the lone evil, you can be sure that question would have been PM'd to Z, not posted in the thread.

This is a very intelligent cover up on your part after you messed up. Again deflecting suspicion because everyone knows RB couldn't be that dumb...could he?

I never told anyone to vote for anyone. I asked for people to put a vote out there so we could see where there thoughts are leading.

Show me where I told anybody to vote for some one...

With your worthless theory, antbody that lays out a vote is guilty of the same thing. In case you haven't checked the rules, we all have to vote sooner of later. Those of you waiting to the last minute are not much of any help.

Geesch, leading by example, what a weak statement, even from a newbie.

I find it odd you have kept basically quiet this game and never came up with this wonderful idea of yours when the first two people cast votes before me.

Bkw voted hooked in post 13 and judge voted catfish in post 28. My vote for pix did not come until post 105, Sat, 5/24 at 2:18 PM.

My post about folks being sackless and not voting was post #233 on Sun at 4:50 PM. Guess that post has really led the folks down a foolish path, eh?

My "worthless" and "weak" statements sure have you in a tizzy in these two posts. Your responses which chose to put down my theories rather than prove your innocence have me a bit worried.

Your second post above even tries to place doubt on BKW & Judge for being first posters to vote. That was not what I had questioned you about. Keep in mind that I am not the only player to have this theory.

Will everyone please stand up and be counted and freely admit how I forced you to vote? Thanks.

Cap, you haven't even begun to see "pushy". If you truely have read a few games, you know the more folks participate with substance, the easier it is to find the scum. Though with only one to start with, you all look scummy.

By the way, jl66 I am forcing you to change your vote from jensons to chill.
And Lady, you have to come off plant and vote aqua.
DD, move your vote off pix and vote hook.
Plant, I force you to change your vote from DD to bkw.
Ogre, I am forcing you to go from catfish to dirtydawg.
Hook, you have to go fromcatfish to Jensons.
Pix, from rbishop to cap.
Chang that, Ogre, you have to vote ZSandmann.
jl66, you have to vote no one.

You didn't state here who I should vote for, RB. Why should I change my vote from you? There's not much time left.

 

[Lady G]

I still do not think that Z would give the role of Evil Ash to a completely new player. I think we need to be looking for a vet. And yes I am a vet and I am decent at figuring things out sometimes but I'm glad to say that in this round I share something in common with 12 others and this is the role that I prefer actually. So in my mind the other Vets that could pull off the role of EA decently are Hooked, DD, Jensons, JL, RB, BKW, and Ogre. Possibly G and Judge but they are always suspected and get lynched early sometimes even as innocents.

DD still has me concerned and she is way too quiet lately. Hooked I have been getting weird vibes from but he claims to have been typing while under the influence. Jensons is good at laying low and appearing to be helpful. I didn't play the cabin fever game, and haven't read it so I'm not sure just how good she is. JL and RB are almost always evil to me and they both have been posting a bit more than usual. BKW and Ogre are also smart players but I think I can see both their points of views this round.

That said, it's time for a late lunch. I will review the thread this afternoon and probably vote on one of the above vets.

Comments on my post are most welcome.

LOL, Plant so pretty much you think most ALL the vets would be a good choice here

I've thought hard about Jmax, Jensons, and DD also. I go back and forth with them big time. Jmax has been making it much further in the games lately, I could see a case for her being "picked" to lead the evils this round. She is fun, and lately pretty good at lasting. DD, well she seems to always lay low no matter what her role is...there have only been a few games where she has been highly active that I have played with her, which makes her very hard to read...also a could lead the evils well, IMO. Jensons, well again another that lays low most of the games, only coming out when called upon...or to make a quick appearance. My question to you about her this round though would have to be...where has she been helpful?

So far I will admit openly that I am lost as to who to chose really...yes, my vote is on Ogre, but that is not set in stone and really I'm not sure if I like it there or not...no one is standing out to me, and there isn't anyone I feel confident about putting my vote on. This bites:grinyes:

 

[plantling]

LOL, Plant so pretty much you think most ALL the vets would be a good choice here

I've thought hard about Jmax, Jensons, and DD also. I go back and forth with them big time. Jmax has been making it much further in the games lately, I could see a case for her being "picked" to lead the evils this round. She is fun, and lately pretty good at lasting. DD, well she seems to always lay low no matter what her role is...there have only been a few games where she has been highly active that I have played with her, which makes her very hard to read...also a could lead the evils well, IMO. Jensons, well again another that lays low most of the games, only coming out when called upon...or to make a quick appearance. My question to you about her this round though would have to be...where has she been helpful?

So far I will admit openly that I am lost as to who to chose really...yes, my vote is on Ogre, but that is not set in stone and really I'm not sure if I like it there or not...no one is standing out to me, and there isn't anyone I feel confident about putting my vote on. This bites:grinyes:

I said

Jensons is good at laying low and appearing to be helpful

She did make some sort of list on what she thought about players. It wasn't very detailed but then it's a first day. And she's been more interactive in questions and comments than DD or JM. But just out of curiousity, are you thinking EA is a girl since you've been thinking alot about JM, Jensons, and DD?

I still like DD for EA. However it seems like my vote will be wasted. And maybe I'm being suckered by Cat, but I'm not so sure he's evil. So I may end up changing my vote if it's between Cat and someone I feel could also be the EA. *Sigh* I really dislike day 1's.

 

[Lady G]

I said She did make some sort of list on what she thought about players. It wasn't very detailed but then it's a first day. And she's been more interactive in questions and comments than DD or JM. But just out of curiousity, are you thinking EA is a girl since you've been thinking alot about JM, Jensons, and DD?

I still like DD for EA. However it seems like my vote will be wasted. And maybe I'm being suckered by Cat, but I'm not so sure he's evil. So I may end up changing my vote if it's between Cat and someone I feel could also be the EA. *Sigh* I really dislike day 1's.

Yes, I agree Jensons has been more interactive. No, I'm not really sure I think Ash is a female...but they are ones that I could see also, I always think alot about DD and Jmax along with Jensons also.

I hate day 1's too, they are sooooo stressful...I always feel so bad if the first lynched ends up innocent, cause I know how much it sucks to sit out the rest of the game!!!

 

[Lady G]

I forgot to add, sorry about the Jensons thing when I read it I read it as you said Jensons is appearing to be helpful

 

[OgreMkV]

These two statements are inconsistent to me. If you're worried about lynching an innocent why be in a rush to put your vote where it matters? Wouldn't it be better to lynch no one then to lynch an innocent? Why cast your vote on the sole sasis basis of where it will get somebody lynched as opposed to voting for who you think is actually the sole evil?

They are kinda of inconsistant depending on how they are read and how much you know of me. I'll explain.

I would really prefer to lynch BKW, but that's a dog that won't hunt today. So instead of my vote wasting away on him, I'll will vote for someone else that I think is the E-ash/ly. I wouldn't just randomly pick a different vote because that person has more votes than someone else. That's what I think you guys were thinking.

When I'm confident in a vote, I'll leave it there. However, this is day one and I think that catfish is a better choice to lynch than Dawg (for example). I wouldn't vote Dawg even if they had 50% of the votes. I am willing to vote catfish or even DD at this point.

Does that explain?

I'm wondering what the odds are of lynching evil ash on night one. Some peole have said about 6% but I think it is actualy signifacntly less. An innocent person has one chance in 15 to correctly guess the sole evil. A person also has 17 options when you include voting for no one. To lynch evil Ash we need a majority vote so we need a majority of people beating the 7:93 odds. I can't remember enough statistics to work this out but it seems far less likely than 6%.

If it were totally random, then the odds would be 6.25%. The problem is that it is not totally random. Day one might almost as well be, but this day one has been pretty intense and full of interesting comments and information.

Also, the e-ash/ly has been working hard to get the votes on someone else (usually someone who makes an innocent mistake). So, yes, the odds are way lower than 6%. I'd say they pretty much approach zero.

 

[ZSandmann]

Four Hours Till Night Falls...

1 HN: Cat
3 Cat: HN, Ogre, JL
2 Pix: RB, DD
2 RB: Pix, Dirty
3 Ogre: Jensons, BKW, Chill
1 DD: Plant
1 Plant: LG (You didn't retract)


Emails please...

 

[plantling]

I forgot to add, sorry about the Jensons thing when I read it I read it as you said Jensons is appearing to be helpful

Well her list of thoughts on pple is nice and part of me wants to believe it was a gesture to let others know she's innocent and trying but the suspicious part of me wonders if it just isn't to seem helpful.

 

[plantling]

Four Hours Till Night Falls...

1 HN: Cat
3 Cat: HN, Ogre, JL
2 Pix: RB, DD
2 RB: Pix, Dirty
3 Ogre: Jensons, BKW, Chill
1 DD: Plant
1 Plant: LG (You didn't retract)


Emails please...

Z, I thought JM voted for Cat in post 28.

 

[plantling]

I am willing to vote catfish or even DD at this point.

I also find DD suspicious but what would be your reasons for voting DD, Ogre?