Looking for advice about my filtration

Rely on live rock for biological filtration and skimmer to catch particles/charged compounds. I still highly recommend the use of carbon to remove refractory compounds that are not removed via skimming nor are they removed often enough via water changes. At the very least, it keeps the water from becoming tinted (which is often difficult to see, unless there is a side-by-side comparison). I have never seen any issues stemming from extended and continuous carbon use (unlike the overuse of GFO). Since we don't really know all of the compounds that sprout up in our tanks, it is difficult to make a blanket statement, I suppose. However, in general, these levels do often accumulate to much higher than typical seawater levels (especially in tanks with a less-efficient skimmer)--by bacterial metabolism and coral/cnidarian byproducts, etc. From what I've seen, the accumulation of organics has less benefits to offer than detriments. You can read up more on organics here.

To be honest, this is the first I have ever heard of cycling a tank with no filtration.
 
Actually you're right now that I think about it. I did run my wet/dry when I was cycling but no carbon or anything in my canister filters. I didn't run my skimmer either.
My mistake!
Robbie
 
I have never used carbon in any of my tanks. I use Chemipure. It has never failed. It also lasts alot longer than carbon.

Sure you use carbon ;). Chemipure contains mostly activated carbon, along with some exchange and scouring resins. The only thing that would last longer would be the resins. It is a good product and works well, but there are cheaper options.
 
Rely on live rock for biological filtration and skimmer to catch particles/charged compounds. I still highly recommend the use of carbon to remove refractory compounds that are not removed via skimming nor are they removed often enough via water changes. At the very least, it keeps the water from becoming tinted (which is often difficult to see, unless there is a side-by-side comparison). I have never seen any issues stemming from extended and continuous carbon use (unlike the overuse of GFO). Since we don't really know all of the compounds that sprout up in our tanks, it is difficult to make a blanket statement, I suppose. However, in general, these levels do often accumulate to much higher than typical seawater levels (especially in tanks with a less-efficient skimmer)--by bacterial metabolism and coral/cnidarian byproducts, etc. From what I've seen, the accumulation of organics has less benefits to offer than detriments. You can read up more on organics here.

To be honest, this is the first I have ever heard of cycling a tank with no filtration.


That first paragraph was super helpful...I like details. I'm not sure what you meant by the second part. I cycled my tank with massive water changes AND all of my fitering systems in place. I'd heard of people slowing getting rid of some filtration systems once the tank was established and that is why I was asking if I still needed all of my filtering stuff - or if keeping all of my filtration systems could damage the tank in any way.
 
Dump the HOB filter, it's a nitrate factory. The skimmer & LR is all you need. Have you tested the parameters lately? Any inhabitants in there yet?

Ooohhhh yeah...inhabitants are in there. Here's a recent FTS. I've got a hammer coral, yellow polyp coral, monti digi, monti cap, colt coral, sunburst coral (favorite), mushrooms, xenia, candy cane coral, aussie acan, favia and a few zoas. Plus fish and mobile invents. LOVE having a tank.

ftsnewjuly2008ia2.jpg
candycanejuly2008bx7.jpg
aussieacanbestjuly2008qf7.jpg
starburstcoralsv3.jpg
starfishandcukess6.jpg
 
That first paragraph was super helpful...I like details. I'm not sure what you meant by the second part. I cycled my tank with massive water changes AND all of my fitering systems in place. I'd heard of people slowing getting rid of some filtration systems once the tank was established and that is why I was asking if I still needed all of my filtering stuff - or if keeping all of my filtration systems could damage the tank in any way.

I meant to quote wantvws in the second part--sorry for any confusion.

But yeah, if anything, you'll want to continue using your filtration. While ammonia and nitrite are undetectable, all of those compounds released by animals and bacteria won't stop being produced. Good filtration is an aid to keep them down between water changes.
 
Journey, your tank looks great btw....great job!
Robbie
 
I meant to quote wantvws in the second part--sorry for any confusion.

But yeah, if anything, you'll want to continue using your filtration. While ammonia and nitrite are undetectable, all of those compounds released by animals and bacteria won't stop being produced. Good filtration is an aid to keep them down between water changes.

Thanks a bunch...always looking to learn and do things better!
 
Journey, your tank looks great btw....great job!
Robbie


Thanks Robbie...I think that this hobby is sooo fun and such a cool opportunity to learn. I am obsessing on multiple forums right now...don't know when that part will die down!
 
AquariaCentral.com