Mafia #44 Christmas At ACville

Sorry for not trusting you Dawg.

I think that votewise Mad looks more suspicious than FireDancer. If the evils had a chance to save their leader then I think they would have tried. Mad voted Dawg after Piggy did. I think Hooked's vote on Piggy was late. I need to go pull up Cat's vote tallies.
 
Nite 3 to lynch .....

piggy (3) dawg 769 fire 870 hk 887 Jl66 931 Cat 943
dawg (4) pigy 842 mad 894 plnt 898 splk 914

JL voted piggy first before he retracted. So at the time of Mad's vote on Dawg there were already 4 votes on piggy: JL, Dawg, Fire, and Hooked. There was only one vote on Dawg but then I had indicated that I may vote Dawg or John. However Piggy had messed up earlier that day by voting Cat b4 it was confirmed that Cat was who he said he was. So would it make more sense to throw your leader under the bus to look innocent or vote elsewhere hoping others would follow? Would the evils have split up their votes?

What a pickle.
 
FireDancer7905 said:
We are down 2 innocents, and that sucks. I can honestly say that I am lost as to a good vote. I liked cat's logic for voting piggy, and so voted piggy, thinking mafia. No good, the 3-- person came in all weird-like and was killed. I totally understand why he got the votes he did, but I wish we had voted on someone who could have shown us something. By voting him out, we learned nothing via interactions with other people, which is unfortunate. Then the mafia take out Eddie, for which I don't blame them. His posts were driving me nuts, and he was giving off an odd vibe. The big question is, did the mafia take him out because he was picking on one of them, or to totally screw up the town's plan of grilling him before night "tonight"? Back to where I started, I voted piggy, feeling good about it, but my feelings about cat are currently up in the air, leaving me stuck. I would like to vote for piggy still, but if Cat is mafia, I don't want to be led around by him. *sigh*

John, I am about to post a list...just wanted to give you a heads up. I do promise to include a vote, if that helps. ;)

An incomplete list, with only pertinent thoughts....

10, mafia --- 1, innocent

johnlarson66 - 4 - I know, a surprise turnaround. But we are of like minds on a few players, and as I know I am not psychic, either you are and are sending good-jl-vibes, or you are not evil elf scum.

dirtydawg10 - 3 - I find myself agreeing with at least part of what he says about DD and the Eddie hit -

Dangerdoll - 8 - following Dawg's post mentioned above, she jumps all over the whole "off course I was being set up" angle. This seems to be a very convenient way to shift blame away from herself, without having to be the one to bring it up. If she is evil, this was exactly the out she needs....

catfish69hunter - 6 - nudged up from innocent, not sure he's mafia, but also not feeling trusting of him

piggy67 - 8 - Still not feeling happy elf vibes from him. I don't like the tone of his posts, or how he still seems to be leaving his thoughts out of his posts. Also, statistically speaking, one of the newbs should be mafia. After last night, piggy and virt are the only ones left.

Virtuoso2K12- still not feeling too hot about him. Same stats reason given above in "piggy."

I vote to lynch Piggy.

I work late tomorrow, then am going to visit my friend and her new baby in the hospital. If I get back in time, I am willing to swtich my vote to one of my higher numbers above to help the town. :)

G'Nite!
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Alright Fire. If you are evil you are a balsy evil for having tried to vote out your own boss 3 nights in a row. After night one there were others that you could have gone to but you stuck w/it. If I am wrong, it won't be the first time this game.

I vote to lynch Mad
 
Hooked, you are a good elf now but I can't make you be good. I can only ask you to play as an innocent. Afterall you will win if the innocents win. And like it or not you will technically lose if the evils win. Be a Winner.
 
Hooked Newbie said:
I can see that. I'd have to say my top 3 right now would be...

1. piggy- based alot on voting you before confirmation or denial of your claim was provided. Also had some weird interactions before hand.

2. Dawg- Could have been nothing, but I can't dismiss the way he and DD went at it.

3. Plant- Got a bit overly defensive IMO even though I do think the present controversy was blown a bit out of proportion and based mostly on misunderstanding.

3. Sploke- He and Plant are sorta tied in my eyes, but I haven't seen much to say either way.

I do need to reread through some of the posting that I had to speed read over, I've had a terrible read on the game so far. I was sure that Virt was noob mafia.
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Madcrawdad said:
I know it's been mentioned, but blindly following Cat is a bad idea. While Cat is a known innocent, and the motives behind his input are honest, just following blindly presents two problems, as I see it:

1. Cat could be wrong... by blindly following Cat, everyone stops looking on their own.

2. With the whole town following, there'll be no differentiation in votes to examine, after the fact. If all scum hop on after Cat does, we learn nothing new.

As his motives are in the town's best interests, I think it's wise that people weigh his input more heavily than others, but continue to think for themselves.

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As far as my list of top 3 at this point:

1. Dawg - the late kill vote on DD was REALLY scummy. And the vote for himself along with the 'I had a 50/50 chance,' only make it worse.

He also started pushing for DD early on Day 2, based on the fact that Eddie got hit.


2. Piggy - early on DD, and cast the 1st vote for her with not a very strong reason. Seems odd, seeing that he was all over JL on Day 1. To seemingly jump on DD out of thin air looks suspicious




3. No firm 3rd here:

- Sploke, he really seems to have given a few qualifications for his vote on DD. 1st he qualifies that he doesn't want to align himself with Piggy, yet he does and 2nd he makes it sound like he doesn't really want to lynch DD....just wants to make the voting closer and see what happens. Yet, he rides the vote to nightfall.


- JL, his vote switch on Day 1 to save himself, falls way outside of what he's done in the past.

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With that said, I vote to lynch Dawg


Just to give folks a heads up, I've been home with 2 sick kids for the past 2 days, and am sick myself....get your flu shots, people. I'm still a little behind on reading/digesting posts from late last night and today, but will hopefully be able to weigh in before nightfall.
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I put Sploke on my list to try and protect him as I thought he was the other communicating elf. I think Hooked and Mad saw what I saw too. I believe they put him on their lists knowing he would be their hit victim.
 
Wow. I really hoped that this would be over tonight....Dawg was practically wrapped with a big red bow. It has to Brandy. :thud:

Plant, I know you've voted already, and that's fine, but just keep an open mind. I noticed something in one of FD's posts that you pulled, and I want to go back thru more of her posts to see how opinions of players evolved over the past few days.

I won't have time tonight, but hope to look in the morning to give you plenty of time to think about things.
 
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