Mafia 46: In the Dark

[[AC] C-note]

Twisting because you keep leaving out the last paragraph of my post which very clearly says you are my #1 suspect.

No response is required to my comments in posts 500 & 501. I'l just assume you agree with my statements in those posts. Thanks.

Not leaving anything out, your entire post is there for all to see. As far as me being suspect #1, you say something like I'm your best suspect because of 'reasons listed above.' I'm pointing out that what you said above doesn't jive at all with being suspect #1, and especially a vote. On your list, Ogre was CLEARLY your #1 suspect....you called him 'mafia' and you didn't use 'unsure' like you did with me. Big disconnect there.

 

[dirtydawg10]

Just putting some of dawgs posts out :



I would not vote for someone who I didn't think was the best candidate - ok maybe in a last minute thing to save myself I would, but a) I know what I am and b) not necessarily depending on who was the tie. Anyway, I wouldn't have seen the need to save myself at that stage last night there was plenty of time and I was comfortable enough where I stood.

You wouldn't vote for someone you didn't think was the best candidate? What about your vote for DD.

Of course, I had used the retraction. So my vote for Gun would have been final and irrevocable. Gun turned out to be innocent. If Dirtydawg is mafia it would have been just lovely to have me put a nail in Guns coffin. This post is, I think, fairly characterised as manipulative..

Yes it was manipulative. I was trying to figure out why you weren't trying to save yourself and if I pushed you a little would you jump. Then while I was typing Guns signed his own death warrant...who would have believed that?

A nothing post. Most of dawgs posts have little content. This one is typical. Its a post just for the sake of making a post.



Ditto.



Check the original post to see what dawg is going on about here. Something about Ogre wanting to vote guns but have a gut instinct not to. What's so strange about that anyway. Meh.



More mumbo-jumbo. Accusing someone C-Note I think of skimming whatever.



This statement has already been examined by C-note.

Not true...there is a lot of content in my posts. Most of it just happens to be about you and c-note. Is that why you are trying to downplay my posts?

Glad dawg is comfortable with his vote. If he switches, see if he explains why.

So broadly speaking I still like dawg as a mafia candidate. You have a lot of garbage posts, attempts to manipulate and not a whole lot if any assistance to the town. He's either a mafia or he's having a bad game as an innocent if you ask me. That is where I am on him and he's my leading candidate for a vote on what is available so far.

I am comfortable with my vote and I can see from your and c-notes responses that you are not comfortable with my vote. He protects you, you protect him...I guess that's how a partnership works. Don't worry...after the reaction to my vote I highly doubt it will be changed.

 

[Lady G]

Well, I've gone back and re-read everything, I have to say I am sooo conflicted as to who to vote. I see so many as suspicious but there are only 3 Mafia...trying to keep in mind there are also CI's and I sometimes get PRs as evils on my radar.

I tried to think about if I were Mafia, who would I turn...If I were CI who would I want. Just trying to figure out in my own mind, I don't think it is a good idea for us to list who we would turn and why IMO, that just gives the Mafia a advantage in their choices.

In going back I just keep going back and forth between Orge and Noodles as top. Then I come across things from Lucky that just make me go Hmmm, Now Dawg he has raised big time for me. I look at Rich and think I can see him as mafia too.

So now I have 5 ppl I'm looking at and only 3 can be Mafia, so my vote is going to the one that bothers me the most when reading their posts, which would be Orge and Noodles. I think to myself...Orge well I know I have played several games with him and was sure he was mafia only to be wrong, I think it is just his style really. I may kick myself later for this, but I vote to lynch Noodles.

This vote can and may change.

Two reasons. I have a stronger feeling for c-note than I do for Ogre I just may not have worded it to everyone's liking. I know what I am thinking so trying to twist my words won't change that. The second reason is because I think Ogre has enough heat on him right now from other sources and it's not a good thing to focus all attention on one person since there are 3 mafia to contend with.

Ok, whatever you say Dawg...I twisted nothing in your words. Maybe you meant it a different way then it was worded or I took it, but I didn't twist any of your words.

 

[dirtydawg10]

Not leaving anything out, your entire post is there for all to see. As far as me being suspect #1, you say something like I'm your best suspect because of 'reasons listed above.' I'm pointing out that what you said above doesn't jive at all with being suspect #1, and especially a vote. On your list, Ogre was CLEARLY your #1 suspect....you called him 'mafia' and you didn't use 'unsure' like you did with me. Big disconnect there.

OK...So you want me to vote for Ogre?

You actually did leave out the part where I said you are my #1 suspect because of your strange protection of Mael throughout day 1...and I stated that you Ogre and Mael are most likely a team now. You do realize there are 3 of you right? Not just 1? So having 3 suspects and a possible 4th shouldn't be hard for you to grasp. Whether you like it or not that's how I see it. How many times do I need to explain it?

 

[[AC] C-note]

Just as you said it was completely random....I had suspicions about other players but really nothing to go on.


"Here on Day 1 you mention that you've come to some conclusions...myself and Gunslinger are likely scum. Everyone else on your list has been leaned innocent." That is kind of irrelevent now sense Gunslinger has been lynched and he was an innocent.


"In response to your list, Gunslinger questions how you could have DD listed as innocent on Day 1." I have already answered this one on an earlier post...The few mafia games I have played DD has always been innocent. I said this because of past games I have played.....no real reasoning concerning posts. Who know maybe she is Mafia...could possibly be it's a new game, I don't know but at this point in the game she still has not said anything to make me feel she is Mafia.


"One of your responses to Gunslinger is that even though it's Day 1, 'the game has been on for three days...' This seems to be saying that you feel that you've had plenty of time (3 whole days) to read people and decide whether they might be guilty or innocent. You apparently feel pretty good about your list.


So, if you felt that good about your list...why the late random vote for Lucky?" Again Gunslinger is gone now looks like I made a wright choice in not voting for him!

Originally Posted by [AC] C-note "Good to see you, MC. If you could do me a favor and let me know which points Dawg has made, and what you find suspicious in the post of mine that you quoted.

I just made a post about players appearing opportunistic, and you appear out of nowhere to issue a simple agreement with Dawg, and then make a general blanket statement that a post screams 'Mafia' to you. How so?"

This post is quoted text couldn't find the original context but this is where this comes from.

Originally Posted by [AC] C-note
Saying that something smells like someone starting a train shows that you've got fairly strong feelings about maelstrom possibly being mafia...heck, you even lean DD innocent. For some reason, though, you don't really ever mention your thoughts on maelstrom.

In this post, you kind of express mild agreement with maelstrom that DD always seems guilty, but go onto say that maelstrom's vote kind of inspires you to move DD up a notch toward innocent. You never come right out and call maelstrom's move scummy, though, but apparently you really think it is.

In this game, the main idea is to lynch your best suspects so it seems odd that you'd take the time to lean DD innocent in your post, but not try to go after maelstrom at all. This looks like a possible attempt to blend; cuddling up to DD while not really pointing that strong of a finger at maelstrom...leaving it for others to lead that charge.

Now here's a follow-up post explaining how early votes are good for getting people talking, and hoping something good comes from maelstrom's early vote. You still don't look to be taking much of a stand on maelstrom here. Odd since you find mael's actions scummy enough to move DD up on the innocent scale.

Thanks, MC. Your random vote for Lucky became very relevant when Gunslinger was lynched as an innocent. Mafia want to get innocents lynched, but to avoid a trail, they'd rather not do it themselves. The fact that you named myself and Gun as suspects, but pitched a supposed random vote at Lucky does appear suspicious.

 

[[AC] C-note]

OK...So you want me to vote for Ogre?

You actually did leave out the part where I said you are my #1 suspect because of your strange protection of Mael throughout day 1...and I stated that you Ogre and Mael are most likely a team now. You do realize there are 3 of you right? Not just 1? So having 3 suspects and a possible 4th shouldn't be hard for you to grasp. Whether you like it or not that's how I see it. How many times do I need to explain it?

Dawg, I think you're mafia...I don't care who you vote for. The point of my posts was to highlight the inconsistency in what you said, and what you actually did. Inconsistency frequently equals scum.

One question. What are your current thoughts on MC? You went from being not willing to vote for him, to being willing to vote for him only 7 minutes later. As I don't believe that there were any other posts between your list post and your vote post (I could be wrong), what changed your mind?

 

[dirtydawg10]

Here's what I said...

I can still change my vote if I see more info from others and I am willing to vote for any of the people stated above in my post 543.

I said if I see more info from others...meaning if more information comes to light on MC or others on my list I would be willing to change my vote to them. After rereading that I can see how it might be misinterpreted.

 

[rich311k]

Interesting,

so far we have Dawg and C-note and ogre and Noodles bashing each other.

Ogre is high on most peoples list and if he and noodles were a team noodles would need to leave him soon or he is going to go down. That and the fact that he always plays hard lightens any suspicions I have of him.

C-note has been on everyone for most of the game and seems solidly on dawg now. I still think he is being straight forward looking for a best vote.

I tend to think dawg is defending himself and not looking else where to help the team.

Noodles still worries me but she has not said much today to strengthen or lessens my ideas about her. I wonder if she will pull the vote off of Ogre?

I look forward to hearing more from everyone else.

Right now I would say Noodles, then dawg.

 

[IceH2O]

Night fall in 6 +/- hours

Day 2


Ogre-3- MC(489) Noodles(520)CJ(542)


Dawg-1- Cnote(493)


Noodles-2- Ogre(518)LG(563)


MC-1- JL(527)


LG-1-Lucky(531)


Cnote-1- Dawg(544)


No votes:


Rich
DD
Opi
[AC] maelstrom

 

[IceH2O]

From his perch Bala notices a dust cloud in the distance. Horatio was correct, they will be here shortly after night fall.

Bala can only imagine what terror will be brought upon this small town.