Mafia #47 "Ghost Hunters"

[Opicana]

So I put forth a theory that might implicate you. You tell me that I am crazy, throw every one who voted for DD on the good side. Decide that the number two vote getter, John is an innocent, so it must be those evil guys. The crowning piece of evidence is I was on your list already. Hmmmm!

Very suspicious to me.

Well, when we have so little to work with, we do what we can. If you put forth that theory and it didn't implicate you or myself, I still would have had the same reaction. I still would have disagreed because this is what makes sense to me.

I am still not even close to 100% confident on you, Rich (esp. where I was wrong last round), but please...provide me with more information that will prove your theory, or anyone elses for that matter.

 

[luckydud13]

Here's my current thinking...but I am totally open to suggestions...

I don't think the "mafia" would want to take out DD (see my previous argument)....so I am eliminating Rickets, John, Fire and Ice from my pool of suspects.

I really don't think the murderer would attempt to fly a solo vote on night 1...as anything that unusual will attract unnecessary attention. So, I am also eliminating CJ, Pap and Ogre.

This leaves me with those who voted for JL....JL is a strong contributor. And like I mentioned in my previous post, eliminate a strong contributor early on will make things a bit easier for the "Mafia"...no one kicking the bushes, etc... So, all three of the people who voted for JL are on my list....
Noods, Lucky and Rich.

Rich was on my previous suspect list....so, he will get the #1 spot. Lucky and Noods are tied for the second position.

But as previously stated, DD s a veteran, she really doesn't have a differing playing style from what I've seen. And to think that the mafia wouldn't want to take out someone on day one might be true, but any good mafia member knows that there isn't enough information on one suspect to prove him a power role.

And why not fly solo on night one? When no one has any real good info to go on, you tell you team to vote for other people to not cause suspicion.

And just because JL is a contributor (I'll give him that) doesn't mean he has good intentions. I voted him not because he was a noncontributor, but because I didn't like his actions. Which makes you accusations of me Noods and Rich quite hypocrytical.

From where I stand, it looks to me like you are trying to defend the people who voted DD out of the picture. Whether your the ring leader, an accomplice, or an innocent who had the misfortune of riding the troubled soul train to hell, there's only one way to find out.

I vote to take the soul of Opi

 

[Opicana]

But as previously stated, DD s a veteran, she really doesn't have a differing playing style from what I've seen. And to think that the mafia wouldn't want to take out someone on day one might be true, but any good mafia member knows that there isn't enough information on one suspect to prove him a power role.

What? I have no idea what you are talking about here...honestly, I am not even sure it applies to what I said.

And why not fly solo on night one? When no one has any real good info to go on, you tell you team to vote for other people to not cause suspicion.

And just because JL is a contributor (I'll give him that) doesn't mean he has good intentions. I voted him not because he was a noncontributor, but because I didn't like his actions. Which makes you accusations of me Noods and Rich quite hypocrytical.

I agree his intentions are not necessarily good, and I am not saying he is innocent because he is a contributor...in fact, I am not even saying he is innocent...just no longer one of my top suspects...perhaps he fell from 3 to 4. I was saying that, if I were a bad guy...he is one I would want to take out early, not DD.

From where I stand, it looks to me like you are trying to defend the people who voted DD out of the picture. Whether your the ring leader, an accomplice, or an innocent who had the misfortune of riding the troubled soul train to hell, there's only one way to find out.

I vote to take the soul of Opi

So? It looks to me like you are trying to defend the people who voted for JL. I am NOT declaring anyone innocent...Everyone is still a suspect in my book, because let's face it, this particular style of game makes things changing constantly. No one is innocent...until they are proven so by death. I am just eliminating people from my "top suspects" list....

Why are you and Rich so jumpy? As I said in my previous post, "Here's my current thinking...but I am totally open to suggestions..."....clearly I'm not 100% about this theory, but I have no other alternatives. I've asked for input. But instead of providing it, you use it as an excuse to point the finger at me.

I totally see a Rich/Lucky team forming here....

Since, there were only 2 bad guys last night...Noods, you are off the hook. Lucky just made the decision pretty easy for me.

Until I see evidence pointing differently, I see Rich & Lucky as my top suspects.

 

[[AC] RICKETS]

Remember that on night 1 (the first vote) there were only 2 evils. I would guess they were both not on the same person.

 

[jpappy789]

Sorry DD.

The bright side is that she or tibs were not Ghost Hunters or the Doc.

I am interested in the lone voters and would like to hear some reasoning behind the lone votes.

Orge's change to noods is very unlike him. Noods is a little suspect, but I respect her vote for me and expected her to cast a lone vote.

I agree with that JL, especially because of what Rickets has pointed out. Ogre admitted to being wishy-washy early when he changed stances on me but it's possible that it's just a cover.

Sorry jpap, I beat you in asking.

Sheesh...

I expected to see a little more posts. I know there were people watching the game last night. I even saw rb around. Could he be Rickets? I am sure those that were watching at nightfall will have some sort of excuse on why they did not post.

With this being a "build" format, things are going to change from day to day.

I still have jpap and orge on top as having some sort of role. Orge's lone vote for noods at the end is out of character. I need to see who he was voting for before that. Might be something in that.

I am wide open on who to vote for.

Wanna hear mine?

I very much disagree (and not just because I voted for DD :silly.

If I were a "mafia" (or troubled soul? whatever...) I would keep DD in as long as poll. From my limited game play experience and what people have said, DD is often the victim of much suspicion...perhaps because she plays so well. Why would the "mafia" eliminate someone who can easily be used as a distraction from themselves? They wouldn't they would keep DD in as long as possible knowing that she will always draw some of the pressure off them and on to her. If I were a "mafia", I would take out the people who like to ask a lot of questions and contribute good theories. No offense to DD, but I don't see this as much in her. I think her play style is more a long the lines of being unreadable.

So, my new approach will be to focus on the people who didn't vote for DD, but voted on someone who was a contributor.

I see this theory as being more valid than Rich's IMO. I have pretty much always thought that mafia will want to keep around suspicious players to fill the nights lynching and keep people off of them. They like trains because they can hide but also jump a lone vote and say they just didn't feel the top vote getter was a good choice. If I am remembering the timing correctly a good chunk (the middle three?) of DD's votes came in at close to the same time, doesn't seem like something mafia would do and I'm guessing only one of those three would be mafia if at all. I wouldn't think that the first vote for her would be a mafia move, just because it is risky to stick your head out like that. Fire was the last to vote DD and I don't really know what that means at this point. I've never been able to read her mainly because her posts are kinda "fluffy"...If anything, mafia would probably only want to be on DD if the next vote getter was one of their own (JL in this case). I'm not really leaning that way, just a possibility.

Right now I'm stuck. I'm not really seeing it in Rickets atm, DD is gone, and Opi is more of a high level of distrust than suspicion. Noods, I'm on the fence with her. She's had some iffy moments but that's come to be the norm.

 

[jpappy789]

At game start the murderer will send in a name to recieve the touch of death, and they will be able to communicate. Each nightfall they will touch another innocent taking their soul (unless the Dr. has protected them). The first two souls will be automatic, after that they have a 50/50 chance of turning a soul.

Aren't there 3 evils? The murderer, the turn at the start of the game, and the turn last night....?

 

[jpappy789]

Rule clairifacation, The game started with the Murderer, they sent in a name to be turned...at night fall one they will turn in another name and every night there after. The first two turns will happen no matter what. Meaning the choice at game start ane the night one turn. After that each only has a 50/50 chance of being turned.

LG even said that...does Opi know that the nightfall turn didn't happen? She said that Noods dropped off her list. Why? There are 3 possible evils but you only account for two...

 

[Opicana]

Aren't there 3 evils? The murderer, the turn at the start of the game, and the turn last night....?

Yeah, there should be 3 now. If this was in response to my post....remember, as of last night during the voting, there was only TWO...the third wouldn't have shown up til after nightfall, correct? So the 3 badguys that are working together now, wouldn't have all been working together last night. Right?

 

[[AC] RICKETS]

Yup...there are 3 now but only 2 at the vote.

 

[Opicana]

Remember that on night 1 (the first vote) there were only 2 evils. I would guess they were both not on the same person.

Good call Rickets...

Hmm...that would make me further confident that Noods isn't working with Rich or Lucky.

Perhaps...there is another evil somewhere else...maybe a DD vote or a lone vote, and Lucky or Rich was a new recruit which is why they are teaming up now? Hmmm.....

Or maybe whichever one of the Rich/Lucky combo is not evil was just vigorously defending his own arse...