Mafia #47 "Ghost Hunters"

[IceH2O]

You are wrong Ice. If the evils outnumbered the innocents 4 to 2 as you claim then all your team would have to do is all come out and vote for one innocent each night and the game would be over. The game would be called I would assume because even with the GH's hit tonight the evil would outnumber the innocents and thus still control the vote. It must be 3 to 3 right now.

So now you think JL is the murderer, Ice? How would taking out anyone who is not the murderer win this game for the town? JL had the first vote on Lucky and if he was evil why wouldn't he just leave his vote on an innocent? Why would JL (if he was evil) come off one innocent at the last minute to lynch another innocent and draw attention to himself? The only explanation is that JL was an innocent GH as he claims and was trying to save someone who he thought was a fellow innocent GH who hadn't been discovered yet. Now who's story has holes in it.

I actually do think JL is the murderer and his last minute move to Fire was so a planned action to get me lynched. He knew Lucky was innocent and since I was so hard on Lucky he could use that as a plan of attack against me since you had no other case.

No one would think the murderer to be so open and in the mix of things.

For a supposed GH he has a terrible track record of voting. He has taken the soul of 3 innocents. Must have really hurt when you lost the ability to check in on the real GHs when we took CJ from you.

Yes I admit I am a GH. Just not the turned one. JLs story is almost true. Except switch CJ and I believe Noodles,with me. The other GH and I are pretty sure that JL is the murderer, now that its been proven that Lucky wasn't.

All 4 of us were never in total contact so we never got investigations to show roles, just GH or not GH and since we knew each other and CJ then that means the other GH is also turned since there can only be 2 of us left.
The hint said flickering. Noodles said something about flickering lights. I think that was a hint that she is the turned GH so no reason to vote her. No reason to hit her either as it doesn't put her on our side.

I hope you're right and its only 3-3. That means we at least have a chance. But if its 4-2 we still get a hit tonight and a well placed hit and we still have a chance and you get no way to add and only a 50/50 for a kill.


If luck is on our side we will prevail.

 

[[AC] RICKETS]

You're right Ice. That would be the best way to go wouldn't it. If JL (supposed murderer) called attention to himself then he could be the entire town's #1 suspect for lynching an innocent. It makes absolutely no sense. I could see if he was trying to save Lucky as you had suspected before but this is ridiculous. If you can get the town to fall for your BS then you deserve to win. He voted for Lucky last night so that the doc would protect him and turn you. But unfortunately for the town the doc dropped the ball.

 

[[AC] RICKETS]

If he wanted to use Lucky against you wouldn't it make more sense for him to let lucky die while he was the 2nd vote on Lucky?

Why would he do it to get to you any way when your vote was on Noods the night he switched? You evils are grasping at straws hey?

 

[Opicana]

g/o Shoot....24 hour nightfall?....Wasn't expecting that. It's fine, since I'd really like this madness to be over, lol....but I am in the lab til 4pm, then I have class until 8pm tonight. Not to mention a quiz to study for and a presentation to give tonight. Goodness knows if I will be able to make it back before nightfall. My posts are going to have be brief, if I am manage to chime in at all. Hope you guys forgive me. g/o

Well, that went spectacularly horrible. And you know what? I blame JL. I didn't want to vote for Lucky, I finally thought Lucky was an innocent...JL proved nothing, but he wasted an innocent. At least if we went with my method, we would have overlapped with a UD. If his story was true, he would know Lucky was an innocent, if he was lying and a troubled soul, he would also know. That proved nothing! But I am NOT comfortable with how the town was railroaded into this disaster. I do NOT like being told we have to vote one of two ways. If we, as a town, mutually decide to do that, it's fine, but I don't like being given an either or. I feel we are being manipulated. JL has been acting crazy suspcious for a long time, and I have had it. I think he is an evil Mastermind, and Rickets is his accomplice. I think their is a third evil one in there, as well, but clearly they are covering their tracks well. Perhaps JPap....he's been staying off people's radar.

I vote to take the soul of JL.

 

[johnlarson66]

So now I am the murderer.

I saved Lucky as a way to get the town to trust me.

Sounds good.

Ice seems to have it all figured out.

jeez...

Here are the facts:

The Ghost Hunters get a hit tonight.

Ice is a Ghost Hunter, Ice was turned, Ice has not been turned back. Ice is working for the lost souls. Anything he says needs to be ignored.

I am a Ghost Hunter, I could have been turned. Anything I say should be taken with a grain of salt, but not ignored.

We really need to find the murderer.

 

[johnlarson66]

g/o Shoot....24 hour nightfall?....Wasn't expecting that. It's fine, since I'd really like this madness to be over, lol....but I am in the lab til 4pm, then I have class until 8pm tonight. Not to mention a quiz to study for and a presentation to give tonight. Goodness knows if I will be able to make it back before nightfall. My posts are going to have be brief, if I am manage to chime in at all. Hope you guys forgive me. g/o

Well, that went spectacularly horrible. And you know what? I blame JL. I didn't want to vote for Lucky, I finally thought Lucky was an innocent...JL proved nothing, but he wasted an innocent. At least if we went with my method, we would have overlapped with a UD. If his story was true, he would know Lucky was an innocent, if he was lying and a troubled soul, he would also know. That proved nothing! But I am NOT comfortable with how the town was railroaded into this disaster. I do NOT like being told we have to vote one of two ways. If we, as a town, mutually decide to do that, it's fine, but I don't like being given an either or. I feel we are being manipulated. JL has been acting crazy suspcious for a long time, and I have had it. I think he is an evil Mastermind, and Rickets is his accomplice. I think their is a third evil one in there, as well, but clearly they are covering their tracks well. Perhaps JPap....he's been staying off people's radar.

I vote to take the soul of JL.

LOL

Opi, you have played very well and picked a good team. My hats off to you. Turning two Ghost Hunters was awesome. You have made a great murderer.

I vote to take the soul of Opicana.

I thought it was either Orge or you. We investigated Orge. Ice felt Orge was the Doctor, so that made me suspect him even more. I should have known it was you by Ice's lack of comment about you.

 

[johnlarson66]

Noods

Opi

Pap

Ice

Ricketts

John

So we have 6 left and the game is still going. I am not sure about the evil turn/hit last night or if any random acts happened. I am guessing it is 3 vs 3 since the game is still going.

Ice and Opi are evil, I wonder who the third one is.

 

[jpappy789]

Dang. I had a suspicion that Ogre was a PR, I just hoped it was evil.

I think JL was a GH but I think he was turned without the doc, would make sense for them to turn him. I am not trusting him. Even if JL was telling the truth, a turned GH doesn't help the town at all. We still need the murderer.

Because of this I really think rickets is the murderer. He suddenly came out and said lucky was innocent and didn't vote for him two nights ago. Yet his final vote was on him last night, I think to blend in and save himself as people started to question him. He was set on disagreeing with Ice but voted with him anyways as he suddenly came to the realization that voting Lucky with the doc turning someone would work. Why would someone so set on knowing Lucky was innocent go with people who thought he was the murderer? I think rickets is the murderer with Ice and JL as turns. That leaves Noods and Opi as the last GH and another innocent.

I vote to take the soul of [AC] Rickets

 

[[AC] RICKETS]

g/o Shoot....24 hour nightfall?....Wasn't expecting that. It's fine, since I'd really like this madness to be over, lol....but I am in the lab til 4pm, then I have class until 8pm tonight. Not to mention a quiz to study for and a presentation to give tonight. Goodness knows if I will be able to make it back before nightfall. My posts are going to have be brief, if I am manage to chime in at all. Hope you guys forgive me. g/o

Well, that went spectacularly horrible. And you know what? I blame JL. I didn't want to vote for Lucky, I finally thought Lucky was an innocent...JL proved nothing, but he wasted an innocent. At least if we went with my method, we would have overlapped with a UD. If his story was true, he would know Lucky was an innocent, if he was lying and a troubled soul, he would also know. That proved nothing! But I am NOT comfortable with how the town was railroaded into this disaster. I do NOT like being told we have to vote one of two ways. If we, as a town, mutually decide to do that, it's fine, but I don't like being given an either or. I feel we are being manipulated. JL has been acting crazy suspcious for a long time, and I have had it. I think he is an evil Mastermind, and Rickets is his accomplice. I think their is a third evil one in there, as well, but clearly they are covering their tracks well. Perhaps JPap....he's been staying off people's radar.

I vote to take the soul of JL.

Thanks for making things much easier for me Opi.

I vote to take the soul of Opi

She is the murderer!!


Your comments make no sense Opi. Half the town (including Ice) was on Lucky before JL asked people to vote for Lucky.

More on the Lucky JL Noods team...( it can't be)

Lucky voted JL day 1 then dropped him completely. Classic mafia move.

We know CJ was evil, and a turn so he must have been turned after Night 1.

CJ voted for Lucky last night. I think he knew Lucky was done for and tried to blend in. John then jumps off last second bc CJ isn't around and is forced to save Lucky by being the kill vote on Fire. That means Lucky must be the murderer and JL is the accomplise.

So Noods can't be evil since they only had 3 as of night fall and the team was JL Lucky CJ.

I vote to take the soul of Lucky

Big mafia line here...usually scum who are going to get lynched try to sway votes by alluding to a PR or just guilt the town into thinking the are voting for an innocent because it will soon be "clear" to them what they have done.

Nice job though, you obviously helped JL jump off of you and on to an innocent and made a few others doubt their suspicions of you in the process. I don't think it will work again.



Again, trying to get people to take a second look at you but not by trying to do what innocents would do (make cases, post other ideas, etc) to get us to change our mind. Fire responded well below.



I see it as you haven't helped yourself, or the town really. I can't even remember why you voted fire and the only reason you suspected me or Ice was because we went after you. Then when people question you about your suspicions you back down and hop onto another person.



While I agree with your vote choice, I don't understand the reasoning behind it.



Hmmm, interesting thought. I can't say I've seen anything substantial against JL but when you tie lucky into it it makes sense why he suddenly dropped JL off his list (without any reason other than he changed his mind) and added a couple of suspects (Opi, Ice, me) some of which he voted for based on reasons that were later disputed.



Who ever said that? Once again, trying to look innocent but failing...

I really wish fire turned out to be scum and was voted off because lucky's plan backfired on him. Unfortunately she was innocent and so my Lucky-fire team theory is trashed. I could see JL in there, but Lucky's done well so far of alienating himself with the entire town. If he's evil, we'll have our work cut out for us looking for connectiond. If he actually is innocent, I would be at a lost for suspects. Hopefully the GH's are as confident in their next vial as the last one. The CJ choice came out of no where but I'm glad they went with it. Unfortunately the fact that Cj was actually on the other side doesn't help me narrow down my suspect list. I had him leaning innocent and so I'm really doubting my suspects, especially since I was hoping fire was on that team. It feels like day one again.

I vote to take the soul of luckydud

for now at least. He's the only one I feel confident in a vote for just because of what's already been said. He's been wiggling himself out of the vote. I think he would rather stay alive even if it hurt the innocents, as it's been shown that he would rather let the mafia leader get voted off rather than himself. I have a slight suspicion that maybe he actually is the murderer thus he answered the quesitons the way he did, and why he is so desparate to look innocent.

Fire did bring up some points that whoever is on his team wouldn't let himact this way, but he may have already dug himself too far into a hole to begin with. Or that he isn't the murderer and just a turn so his team already gave up on him.

Now I'm rambling...

Good job on getting CJ! I really had no inkling as to what position he had, prob due to his lack of participation.
It stinks that we lost Fire, but I am surprised that she turned out to be innocent. I really thought I had her pegged. I guess not knowing her playing style, bit me in the butt!
I am equally surprised at John's late vote switch...Rich's switch is interesting as well; altho I agree with it, his reasoning or lack of is a concern.

Right now I would certainly say Lucky takes the cake. I vote to take the sould of Lucky. It really is a no brainer and I cannot help to agree that his erratic behavior is extremely suspicious and definiately anti-town...

Right now I need coffeee and a shower...more later when my head is clearer.

and that would explain how you knew Lucky was innocent. I don't buy your lame excuse for this screw up.

Well, at least it wasn't all bad....I'm assuming "Lost Soul" = "Troubled Soul" right? In which case, didn't we get rid of one of the baddies?

Sucks that Lucky was innocent, though.

Who started the vote on Lucky? It wasn't JL...it was your partner.

Great shot Hunters.

Guess I was wrong about Fire.

Really was surprised at the last minute vote change JL.

I'm more convinced then ever that Lucky is the murderer.

Noods is till a suspect as well as John now.

 

[johnlarson66]

I don't think they got their turn last night, if they did it would be game over.

They had three, they still have three.

Now besides Ice and CJ, who else would have Opi recruited?