Mafia #51 - Mafia Citizens - The Play

Hmm. Still not alot to go on, but...

I am a little uneasy about Crawdad's voting tactics..
We both played the last game, and apparently are interpreting things a bit differently. It seems to me that he is voting for Kashta, and now is trying to get the rest of us to board his train, and also vote for her. Seems a bit scummy to me.

So in light of this,

I vote to lynch MadCrawdad
 
The fact that many people may be suspicious of one doesn't make that one person any less scummy. Interesting, though, that you'd point out your Day 1 train theory, Z. IMO, Day 1 generally ends in tears for the town, regardless of how the votes fall. Any reason you might want to derail the vote on Kashta before it gathers steam?


I disagree, but is a train necessarily a bad thing anyway?

The bit in bold was to me I believe...trains are not definitively bad things nope not when they work out for the town.

Equally I agree that Day 1 generally ends in tears for the town...them is just the odds. And then the Mucs/Scum just pout and say how sorry they are but y'know 'they just looked really scummy'. So Day 1 trains I think are to be avoided if possible or at least boarded with care because they are statistically likely to be on a pro-town player, and if all the votes pile on its practically impossible to learn anything from it.

Hmm. Still not alot to go on, but...

I am a little uneasy about Crawdad's voting tactics..
We both played the last game, and apparently are interpreting things a bit differently. It seems to me that he is voting for Kashta, and now is trying to get the rest of us to board his train, and also vote for her. Seems a bit scummy to me.

So in light of this,

I vote to lynch MadCrawdad

I am not sure I buy this in total at all. I don't see a campaign being mounted to vote for Kashta. Just people stating their vote. Four of them now. It has the physical characteristics of a bit of a choo choo but not necessarily a full blown train so to speak.

That said, I think in a couple of hours it would help to put some lists up. There is definitely enough material for people who are genuinely trying to help the town to put some thoughts out there.
 
edit by way of post durnit I count three plus red's retraction...someone else counts four. Whatever its one of 'em.
 
The fact that many people may be suspicious of one doesn't make that one person any less scummy. Interesting, though, that you'd point out your Day 1 train theory, Z. IMO, Day 1 generally ends in tears for the town, regardless of how the votes fall. Any reason you might want to derail the vote on Kashta before it gathers steam?
No I only have the desire to not see one person raised above all others so soon. The person in the lead gains the biggest discussion, thus more candidates, more talk. Even if Kash is a Rebel, voting her up so far above all others is going to squash her interactions and thus we learn little from her demise.
IME, cj's not much of a talker... I think Z's vote may have scared him off for good. :)

LMAO. Haven't played w/CJ. Wasn't sure if they were just timid or hiding out for some reason.
Didn't know this but still not a valid reason not to vote for them. I just need to hear something, I've never played with CJ and know nothing about them. I know when people put my name down I get talkative (ok more talkative) regardless of role.
Equally I agree that Day 1 generally ends in tears for the town...them is just the odds. And then the Mucs/Scum just pout and say how sorry they are but y'know 'they just looked really scummy'. So Day 1 trains I think are to be avoided if possible or at least boarded with care because they are statistically likely to be on a pro-town player, and if all the votes pile on its practically impossible to learn anything from it.
Right, I remember most of the games I played although they are a bit muddled, and I know that Day 1 the Baddies/Goodies, whatever we are trying to Kill :D are usually trying to not draw attention to themselves. Kash coming right out the gate is a big oopsie to be certain and they're kind of defensive, but what does it mean?

On the vote count my list is a bit in shambles from the wording issues, I think Red is still on Kash because Bala didn't accept the unvote to switch to Coler. Your mileage may vary :D
 
Hmm. Still not alot to go on, but...

I am a little uneasy about Crawdad's voting tactics..
We both played the last game, and apparently are interpreting things a bit differently. It seems to me that he is voting for Kashta, and now is trying to get the rest of us to board his train, and also vote for her. Seems a bit scummy to me.

So in light of this,

I vote to lynch MadCrawdad

I don't think I've pushed others to vote Kashta, but even if I had, how is that scummy? Seriously. What should one do...vote for someone and then caution others to stay away?

The bit in bold was to me I believe...trains are not definitively bad things nope not when they work out for the town.

Equally I agree that Day 1 generally ends in tears for the town...them is just the odds. And then the Mucs/Scum just pout and say how sorry they are but y'know 'they just looked really scummy'. So Day 1 trains I think are to be avoided if possible or at least boarded with care because they are statistically likely to be on a pro-town player, and if all the votes pile on its practically impossible to learn anything from it.

I would agree that people should exercise caution when boarding a train, however, not necessarily that they are statistically likely to be on a pro-town player. On Day 1, any random vote is statistically likely to be on a pro-town player, but just because lots of people find someone scummy doesn't make that person any less so.

Aha - is CJ usually a really quiet player ?
From the games I've played, a bit of a lurker.
 
Sense the vote didn't count, ill just leave my vote for kash right now, subject to change. I got a question for everyone who says my votes are random, isn't everyones? No one knows anyone unless you are being coached or talking with a team mate? hmm kash hmm
 
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