Mafia 54:Vampires Return (The Play)

[jpappy789]

In all honesty....i am worrying about Coler..he seems to have been bitten by the "Kash-itis" bug....extremely long repetitive post that doesn't mean crap on a worse than a stab in the dark night one....

Right now...they are both on my favorites list...and no..you don't get to see it yet...

Darn...

 

[rich311k]

Wow all that posting and really do see anything that makes me think a vote change is in order. A very typical first day. I guess we shall see how it goes down until nightfall.

 

[dirtydawg10]

Yea! A vote for me. I was beginning to feel neglected around here. I just got home from a very long day at work and tried to catch up quickly. Our internet at work went down right before lunchtime so I did not get my usual play time at lunch or in slack times throughout the day. Dawg, you saying that my slack in posts is an indicator of me being scum is ridiculous! You have played enough games with me, to know that my posting quantity is not effected by the role I have. I have played quite a few games with a scum role and have been the lead poster. This is a far stretch to find a reason to vote for me. But I can live with it.

I am beginning to second guess my vote on Kashta, but not sure where I want it yet.... her posts still bother me but I am not sure that is an indicator of her role, merely that her long posts bother me. (no offense Kash)

need to read over a bit more and see if I can come up with where my vote should be.....

You're welcome Noods. I'm not only voting you for your low post count but that is part of it. Of your 12 posts thus far here's what you have...

8 nothing posts...

This should be fun! :woot:

Question Mod - Are Phoenixn7g and Lanimret aliases or new players? Did not see them in the sign up thread.....just curious.

aaahh, now I recognize you. Thanks.

I will buy one, peddler....



I love garlic; **** the bad breathe!

LOL Thanks! No fizzles here. :

I.....must.....refrain.....:lipssealedsmilie:

If you whisper that Irish accent into my ear, you can bite my neck anytime! :naughty:

*ahem* I mean death to all vampires...

:rofl: Too funny JL!

Your first real post is a random vote post...

I vote to stick a stake into Annie; just a fairly random vote at this point, altho she (?) again seems to be just popping in to make a vote and that is all the contribution we get. This vote is subject to change as the day progresses.

Two posts talking about Kash and why she is evil and a vote switch...

I only have a few minutes as I have company but I really do not like the Kashta is pushing the "ice hand picked the LV role"; I myself have been selected as a Don in a much earlier game and I doubt that experience or charactor plays a role in the selection. To continue to push the idea and not look for other avenues to find the lead vamp is useless and distracting.
JMO. more later when I have more time....

I retract my vote for Annie and vote to stick a stake into Kashta
Yes, I know that ties it up again and I am perfectly ok with that. There is not a whole lot to go on on night one and the fact that Kashta continually brings up past games and who played what role, holds no presidence in the present game and I find it a bit distracting to the task at hand. My vote may change if I see anything that sticks out more than this.....it's all I got to go on right now....:huh:

Then your last post (the top quote) which questions your own vote on Kash. Only 4 posts relating to the game and you are almost on to your 3rd vote suspect. Not very Nood-like if you ask me. That's why you are getting my vote.

 

[johnlarson66]

I have been thinking about this game format.

This format is all about the LV. If the LV is killed the game is over. The LV builds a team that they think will help keep them alive.

I am also not sure if the innocents have ever won a vampire format game. Maybe Kash can research that for us.

I am not real sure what Kash's thoughts really are about the LV. She has made a point to point out that Ice could have hand picked the roles, but is this what she thinks.

So Kash, do you think Ice hand picked the LV or was it random? I really only care what Kash says, since it was her posts about this that got my attention, but if others want to chime in feel free. Also my vote is on Kash and I might want to switch. I wonder why Coler hasn't voted...

I think it was random.

 

[noodles62]

Well, ok Dawg. Ya got me. First day and I do not have a strong suspect list. *gasp*
I think my vote will stay on Kashta. Of course I have no way to know if she is indeed part of the two man team or not but her posts have peaked my interest the most. (I often doubt my judgement, Dawg) I still think she pushed her thoughts just a bit too much, and made such a big deal out of whether the LV role was random or hand picked........I for one, have no plan to even attempt to get inside Ice's head and for the record, I think it was a random selection.

 

[Dangerdoll]

Yes and no, Rich. I agree with the reasoning you just said, but I'm not just looking at old vets. We have other logical suspects who didn't play the old game(s). Here's what I had and how it's been updated.

I've included the old vets on my original suspect list (5 names). Then I added 4 more names to the list who I felt were also advanced and, therefore, most likely to get picked by either Ice (if that wasn't random), or as a partner by the Lead Vampire, or to get turned by the vamps the first two nights. Through a process of elimination, I took off 4 of the names after that (reasons were either lack of participation or someone who I've guessed their role correctly in other games we've played).

Looking at my list today I've made more changes now that are based solely on the game underway in this thread...

I've dropped 2 names who were there before (Jpappy and Ogre) and I've added back 2 names I'd had already removed before (Coler and Dangerdoll) because of what they've posted today.

You've seen I've switched my vote from Zsand to DD already. My four suspects now are: Dangerdoll (who has my vote), Zsandman, Johnlarson, and Coler.

Yes John. Coler was picking apart my thought process and trying to decide if I'm suspicious or not. The fact is from my standpoint, he's just one of several names on my suspect list. I'm not even voting him. I'm also not expecting others to vote him. My vote and my top suspect is still DD.

That's the strangest post I've ever seen from you.

Coler's on my suspect list. Don't assume Ice made random assignments. And DD has my vote. This isn't that hard to follow.

If you're more certain about everything, you tell us then who the 1st and 2nd vampires are.

I dunno Kash... I dunno if it's because it's me who you voted for that I can see this but it looks like your continuous repeating of "your vote being on me" is somewhat telling me that you are trying to form a train on me by pounding it into people's heads. So tell me, what exactly is my game play like that bothers you so much? or wait, was it because of a "hand-pick" thing from Ice (which I find ridiculous, I highly doubt I would be Ice's first choice or even 2nd for the matter).... or wait is it because I didn't read the rules or I should have recalled out of 50+ mafia games, the 2 or 3 that were vampire games... you know, being I'm a genious and all...

 

[Coler]

Bah D1 is what it is.

Hunch....I vote to lynch John Larsson

 

[Kashta]

I have been thinking about this game format.

This format is all about the LV. If the LV is killed the game is over. The LV builds a team that they think will help keep them alive.

I am also not sure if the innocents have ever won a vampire format game. Maybe Kash can research that for us.

I am not real sure what Kash's thoughts really are about the LV. She has made a point to point out that Ice could have hand picked the roles, but is this what she thinks.

So Kash, do you think Ice hand picked the LV or was it random? I really only care what Kash says, since it was her posts about this that got my attention, but if others want to chime in feel free. Also my vote is on Kash and I might want to switch. I wonder why Coler hasn't voted...

I think it was random.

In this game, yes. I think he did pick the LV role. The first few games I played, I assumed mods didn't do that. That they were all supposed to be randomly assigned and there'd be some agreed upon understanding that it's a hands-off thing except where a "blue mist" device gets written into the rules.

In some vamp game before #17 Ice picked the LV role. He left it random then in game 17. You described the LV player as being experienced or competent.. something like that. So the random thing worked out fine. Had that role popped up randomly onto a newbie... I imagine Ice would have swapped out that role for someone else.

Now that I know Ice does pick and choose sometimes, it makes sense for him to select someone specific for that role. The mafia games stopped for a long time and so many of those old vets don't play now. Ice (and many other players) miss those good old days.

Ice got killed off the last game and joined us at the "dead innocents" board. Even there, he reminisced about those fun games/players from the past. He also asked us if we could have an all star mafia team, which players would we choose? You and Zsand participated in that conversation as well. I didn't because I don't even know the old vets who used to play. My frame of reference doesn't go that deep.

Ice's reference just a few days earlier to making an all-star mafia team is the reason I questioned Ogre for more info when he posted what he said about some other mafia "dream team" game that was played.

When Ice signed up shortly after to mod this game, he dug up this old format and got it going. Maybe it presumes too much for me to speculate what might be going on in Ice's head... but for him to choose one person to be the Lead Vampire here and make everything else random doesn't seem like a bad idea from a game mod's position.

 

[Kashta]

I dunno Kash... I dunno if it's because it's me who you voted for that I can see this but it looks like your continuous repeating of "your vote being on me" is somewhat telling me that you are trying to form a train on me by pounding it into people's heads. So tell me, what exactly is my game play like that bothers you so much? or wait, was it because of a "hand-pick" thing from Ice (which I find ridiculous, I highly doubt I would be Ice's first choice or even 2nd for the matter).... or wait is it because I didn't read the rules or I should have recalled out of 50+ mafia games, the 2 or 3 that were vampire games... you know, being I'm a genious and all...

I voted for you for claiming you didn't understand this game format when it's not only a classic that you've played at least twice before (that we know of) and then you basically stumbled again trying to explain it away in the responses you posted. You've been in every game I've played and I've never seen you do something like that before.

If anyone here understands the basic setup of a "team building" format vs. the usual mafia elimination format.... IMO that would be you. Given your experience level in these 50+ games, there's no question in my mind that you're more than up for the role whether Ice made you the Lead Vampire by choice or at random.

The fact that your vote was on me at the time wasn't the deciding factor in my mind. But when you threw an OMGUS at me for voting you was (again IMO) a very weak defensive position for you to take.

 

[IceH2O]

1 JL - Ogre(24) Coler(217)

3 DD - Jpap(29) Kash(112) Wycco(155)

1 Zsand - Kash(35) RB(75)

3 Kash - JL(37) Rocker(60) Zsand(72) DD(99) Noodles(156)

2 Jpap - Zaffy(42) Rocker(148)

3 Zaffy - Lani(47) Rich(51) Ogre(139)

2 Wycco - PD(50)Jm(54)

1 Dawg - Annie(66)

0 Annie - Noods(71)

1 Rocker - Zsand (159)

1 Noods- Dawg(183)

No votes (danger of UD): Phoenix


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