Mafia 54:Vampires Return (The Play)

[johnlarson66]

The = then

 

[rocker92]

yep, saw it just after i posted.

o well

 

[johnlarson66]

So what do you think about that?

I think there were some names that rich was concerned with and just skimmed the rest. Was the leaning innocent for the JL or the Zsand or both? Who in their right mind would have me leaning innocent?

It was a big list of BS.

So is rich evil or lazy?

 

[johnlarson66]

Not so strange.. it sounds like a good idea. It's worth looking at along with everything else. We should be looking at everyone.

So Orge takes up the challenge and looks into jpap. Quotes all sorts of posts from jpap. Gives his input, seems to me he has jpap as a suspect, but then also comes up with jm as a suspect, based on something jpap says.

Then chooses jm over jpap.

If you have some spare time read the original post, here is the conclusion -

....

So the question is do I go for a good player or a quiet player, both of whom I think may be vamps.

For now I retract my vote for Zaffy and vote to stake JM.

Although JPap is a strong contender possibly scummy.


I would also like to note that a few people are quietly being ignored and don't seem to be making much todo about it. Noods is super quiet (must be on medication or something)...

So who is on medication???

 

[johnlarson66]

I do agree there are some quiet people hiding in the shadows.

I am moving Kash more towards innocent. I think the active players are just putting pressure on each other.

Any suspect list generated on day one from me is weak. Day two is not much better. I really have issue with rich's suspect list. I also don't understand the Rb/noods connection and hope Rb will give some reasons, Ogre's research didn't do much for me.

My top four from yesterday, Kash, Ogre, jpap and Coler is basicly a wash.

I like Colers day two input and understand his late pointless vote, I just wish he would have posted an early pointless vote. I don't like rich's list. I don't like noods and ZS's lack of particapation. I expected more from both. Rb is playing like Rb, but really wish he would give a reason. At one point he was implying that I had changed from day to day. I don't think anyone else would agree with that. I was gone from the thread the whole day on Sunday (had a Madden 10 tournament at work), but besides that I have been kicking bushes or acting dumb.

 

[lanimret]

//game off.

Lani, there's nothing derogatory intended toward you as a person. Please don't be offended. This being a roleplay game, people sometimes act certain ways that are otherwise out of character for then for specific reasons. Nothing I've said about anyone should be taken personally.

Well.... except where I called JL a turd... because that happens to be true.

What I've noticed from your posts so far is they often focus on Zaffy or your connection to Zaffy. But I haven't been paying attention to you that much (yet) and I'm just going back through the thread this evening now to get caught up again. So it's possible you've made posts I've missed.

We are all over the place, too, because nobody knows anything for certain. Don't let that bother you though because it's normal. As the game progresses along, it gets better.

//game on.

Too new at this to know it's not really a way of participating in this.

Was just commenting on that. Not a big deal, my feelings are intact.

I don't like to post too much, just when there's a good reason to.

For what it's worth nothing I've said is dishonest at this point. Read from that what you will.

 

[Zaffy]

hhmmmm, not wanting to put your suspicions and thoughts out there for the good of the town is not good. It helps no one except yourself. I also see that you intend to help yourself again with a late vote to save your skin. Not very townie like. The idea is to help eachother see things that are suspicious not hide and keep info to our selves....

Ok, I'll share. You're not the only one who thinks I'm wrong about this.

Jpap - I think he'd make a good vampire partner.
RB - Man of few words, could easily slip under the radar and be a good vamp.
Coler - I think he asks some good questions, I'm getting an echo from Noodles with him.
JL - Has said some confusing things, in a lot of short posts, I want to look deeper. I think he'd be a good vampire.
Zsand - OMGUS! But really, nobody is off my list. I'm going to look deeper.
Jm - Few words, makes it easy to slip under the radar.
Annie - Again, few words. But they seem to be well thought out. New player, so might be a risk as a vamp, but he/she was good in the last game I think.
Kash - I think would be a terrible vampire, vote magnet. But I'm not saying that she's not worth looking at.
Ogre -
Zaffy - I think I dug myself a pit with my move, I still think it was justified. Although it apparently was a huge breach of protocol in this community. I'd be a risky turn.
Noodles - I highly suspect.
Dawg - I want to look at him more.
Rocker - I feel he'd be a weak player for the vampires to turn.
Wycco - I think he'd be an interesting choice for the vamps to turn. Last game he burried himself pretty bad though so that may scare a potential LV off. Doesn't mean he's not trainable and can't take orders though.
Lanimret - I'm never going to be your best man ever again. I hope you choke. My post about him being a potential good pick was a lot of tinfoil (as some pointed out, to me tinfoil means too much conspiracy theory) But I won't rule it out just because it's wacky.
Rich - I want to look at him more.
Paperdragon - Not a lot to go on.

So, basically. Everyone is on my list, but I'd rank coler, noodles, jpappy, JL, as my top 4. In no particular order.

17 players remain, 3 are vampires.

 

[Zaffy]

I just saw that I left Ogre blank.

I think he'd be a good turn, but I need to look closer.

 

[Zaffy]

I vote to put a stake into Jpappy

I'd love to hear more from RB though. If not then this is surely coming off.

 

[jpappy789]

I think the turn has been exposed....

well....look at jpappy first.....more to follow...

I vote to lynch jpappy...

since Kash givves him an OK....

LOL, ok Rb not sure what you are trying to pull this game...last game it was believable but really Rb?

OK, rb, I take up the implied challenge to review Jpap and I actually found a couple of interesting things and more confusion... maybe.



First vote for pap. I assume that Jpap took as the first day/first vote nonsense that it generally is and ignored it. But it would be weird if a vamp voted for someone to turn. It might not be so weird if someone were later turned (Zaffy).



Taken separately, this doesn't really mean anything, but it seems to me there are several posts in this general theme.




hmm... OK, I can maybe see my comments as being 'too dramatic', but is it really that big a deal? And is it big enough to think me a vamp? (re: Jpap's current list)



OK, Jpap half expected DD to be innocent, yet she was the choice for the vote. In a couple of place (OK, at least one place), Jpap jumps on people for a random vote.
I mentioned earlier that day that I was not very sure of DD's guilt but I felt like that was the best place for my vote.


Now it's scummy to vote random rather than for a susepct. Is 50/50 chance scummy or random or a suspect?
Since when is it not scummy to not vote for a suspect?


Who's a known innocent?
This was during the part when Phoenix was hoping to come back and you said something about her being turned then...I said it was more likely for the vamps NOT to and instead try fishing for a PR


After reading this a couple of times, I'm still not sure if this is for or against John...
Neither. I was asking Kash about the time of her little theory.


Actually I agree with this... but it's also somewhat contradictory.



OK, now this is a mini-showdown. But when I called them on it yesterday, Jpapy jumped my butt about it and move me to possible vamp status because of it.
LOL, you acted as if Kash and Coler's bickering was going to destroy the town while the LV just sit backs and laughs at us all...I played it off as annoying.


This is reference to John. So Pap is ignoring John's content, but still thinks him of being a vamp.
Pretty much. You can't deny that JL is playing like, well as Kash so eloquently put it, a turd. It's enough to be put as a suspect IMO but as I have said my suspicion rests solely on his gameplay. It's not something I would use for a vote at this point.






I'll answer this. At the time, I didn't think Kash was a vamp and wanted to make it a multi-horse race. My choice was DD (I think) or Zaffy... I picked.


I thought I saw another Jpapy post where he basically accepts the random vote thing because he does it, but has accused others of doing the same thing. Maybe I misread.
Don't remember ever saying that...
Conclusion: I think Jpap is all over the place. I think his play style may have changed too. I think that some of his posts are even contradictory. I left out a lot of the posts where him and DD were discussing the rules.

The one thing I have about not voting him is that I agree with him about JMs current play (or lack thereof).

JM has done some switching that seems odd and is very quiet.

So the question is do I go for a good player or a quiet player, both of whom I think may be vamps.

For now I retract my vote for Zaffy and vote to stake JM.

Although JPap is a strong contender possibly scummy.


I would also like to note that a few people are quietly being ignored and don't seem to be making much todo about it. Noods is super quiet (must be on medication or something)...

Interesting...a lot of questioning of me but a vote for Jm based on one thing you agreed with but still found contradictory?