I don't skim. I have no probem with asking people to repeat themselves. Especially when they're up there in the vote count.
Mafia 54:Vampires Return (The Play)
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I don't skim. I have no probem with asking people to repeat themselves. Especially when they're up there in the vote count.
Okey Dokey.
All that being said and done my working theory is that Rich and JL are vampires and that JM may be.
I retract my vote to lynch JM and I vote to lynch Rich
All good - I am unlikely to be around for quite a while if at all tonight (in RL that is whatever about the gametime).
All that being said and done my working theory is that Rich and JL are vampires and that JM may be.
I retract my vote to lynch JM and I vote to lynch Rich
All good - I am unlikely to be around for quite a while if at all tonight (in RL that is whatever about the gametime).
Okay. Being gone from this so long, I fell way behind. Caught up through 10 pm last night (pacific time) and here's what I have as of that point in time.
Rbishop is who I still want to vote for. But he's not even in the running. So I set out to find out..... why not?
To me, Rb was a turningpoint in the game and my strongest opinion I have of anyone is that he's a vampire. To figure out why I seem to be in the minority about that.. I had to go back from that point to where I am now (current through last night). "That point" being where Rbishop said for us to look at Jpappy > voted Noodles for voting Jpappy. That happened on the 18th.. so it's been 4 full days of posts for me to review in sequence. I tried pulling posts for different people at first, but that disconnects them from where they lie in relation to the discussion going on in the thread at the time.
Both Rich and Wycco have emerged IMO as I reviewed everything as most consistently distracting us from suspecting Rbishop. Those are my next suspects behind Rb for that reason.
I'm leaning Ogre, Johnlarson, and Zsand as suspicious. But not very strongly. At first, they posted a lot in agreement with my opinion (about Rbishop).. but they've each gone off since then. That's taken them from leaning innocent (which is scary) to possibly pointing hard at Rbishop for while (distancing) to then actually push for and vote for someone else (Jpappy) instead. All three of these players are smart enough and calculating enough to think that many chess moves ahead of us in the game. So for all three, I'm probably going to waiver between innocent or vamp quite a lot.
Ogre picked up suspicion on Rbish.. wandered around with that (when he was "thinking out loud") ....... but seems to have abandonded his position in Rb's regard ever since.
JL made the strongest arguments against Rbish (other than me so far). But instead of seeing that through, he's voting and pushing Jpappy instead. Zsand.. pretty much the same thing.. except now (this morning) I see he's voting Rich.
Based on the only suspicion I feel solid about (that being Rbishop is vamp).. I see both Jpappy and Noodles as being set up by Rb. My feeling is.. they're both innocent. We know now that Noods was innocent. And lynching Jpap isn't going to tell us anything to decide something I already believe is true...... about Rbishop.
Top suspects --> Rbishop + Rich/Wycco
Suspicion (unresolved/TBD/changes too often) --> Ogre, JL, Zsand.
Innocent --> Jpappy
Therefore...
I vote to stick a stake into Rich.
I'd rather vote Rbishop today, but he's not in the running. I'm as convinced as I can be about all three -- Rb, Rich, and Wycco. And I'm willing and prepared to switch my vote to either of these 3 between now and nightfall if that helps to lynch/stake either of them.
It's taken me since last night until now to get caught up. I've jotted down notes and I can go back and pull quotes if it's necessary to show what I base this on.
Right now, I have to go out. I should be back in about 2 hours.. maybe less. After that, I expect active and posting along with everyone for the rest of the day.
Rbishop is who I still want to vote for. But he's not even in the running. So I set out to find out..... why not?
To me, Rb was a turningpoint in the game and my strongest opinion I have of anyone is that he's a vampire. To figure out why I seem to be in the minority about that.. I had to go back from that point to where I am now (current through last night). "That point" being where Rbishop said for us to look at Jpappy > voted Noodles for voting Jpappy. That happened on the 18th.. so it's been 4 full days of posts for me to review in sequence. I tried pulling posts for different people at first, but that disconnects them from where they lie in relation to the discussion going on in the thread at the time.
Both Rich and Wycco have emerged IMO as I reviewed everything as most consistently distracting us from suspecting Rbishop. Those are my next suspects behind Rb for that reason.
I'm leaning Ogre, Johnlarson, and Zsand as suspicious. But not very strongly. At first, they posted a lot in agreement with my opinion (about Rbishop).. but they've each gone off since then. That's taken them from leaning innocent (which is scary) to possibly pointing hard at Rbishop for while (distancing) to then actually push for and vote for someone else (Jpappy) instead. All three of these players are smart enough and calculating enough to think that many chess moves ahead of us in the game. So for all three, I'm probably going to waiver between innocent or vamp quite a lot.
Ogre picked up suspicion on Rbish.. wandered around with that (when he was "thinking out loud") ....... but seems to have abandonded his position in Rb's regard ever since.
JL made the strongest arguments against Rbish (other than me so far). But instead of seeing that through, he's voting and pushing Jpappy instead. Zsand.. pretty much the same thing.. except now (this morning) I see he's voting Rich.
Based on the only suspicion I feel solid about (that being Rbishop is vamp).. I see both Jpappy and Noodles as being set up by Rb. My feeling is.. they're both innocent. We know now that Noods was innocent. And lynching Jpap isn't going to tell us anything to decide something I already believe is true...... about Rbishop.
Top suspects --> Rbishop + Rich/Wycco
Suspicion (unresolved/TBD/changes too often) --> Ogre, JL, Zsand.
Innocent --> Jpappy
Therefore...
I vote to stick a stake into Rich.
I'd rather vote Rbishop today, but he's not in the running. I'm as convinced as I can be about all three -- Rb, Rich, and Wycco. And I'm willing and prepared to switch my vote to either of these 3 between now and nightfall if that helps to lynch/stake either of them.
It's taken me since last night until now to get caught up. I've jotted down notes and I can go back and pull quotes if it's necessary to show what I base this on.
Right now, I have to go out. I should be back in about 2 hours.. maybe less. After that, I expect active and posting along with everyone for the rest of the day.
Kash, Kash, Kash... interesting how you start suspecting me when I call you out? 
Anyhow- I'm probably not going to get a chance to post again until late Saturday (family coming into town)- so here is my last run down.
My suspects
1) JL - Almost certainly a vampire. I won't rehash my reasons I've posted them oft enough.
2) Rich - Has acted bizarre ever since his noodles swith. If innocent he has a funny way of playing.
3) Kash - Changed playing style dramatically after day one. Bizarre reasoning that made no sense to try and get people to vote off Bishop.
4) JM - Really not so sure about this one- but Rich looks to be distancing himself from JM after becoming a major candidate for lynching. Plus others seem more convinced so I'll respect their wisdom.
Possibles:
5) Ogre - nothing that I haven't already said- and no real reason.
6/7/8) Zaffy/Sand/Rocker - I don't know what to think about these 3 so I'll put them in the possible category
9)Coler - I had him leaning innocent until switching to JM a non-player from Rich a top suspect... it was probably a trap but enough to raise suspicion.
Probably Innocent:
10) J-Pap - I would have him as a possible- but due to Rich and JL whom I think almost certain vamps campaigning heavily against him makes me lean him innocent. If Rich and JL turn out innocent he would become top of the list. In such a tight race between Rich and Paps- with almost certain vampire, JL voting for Paps makes me think Paps is innocent.
11/12) lanimert/Paper Dragon - I think both are innocent- but how much are they hiding behind being new- lanimert in his baseless votes against Zaffy.
Finally, RB.
13) RB is a strange one in his quietness- but that is the only question mark on him- and I have looked back at last game and he was equally quiet- he just seems to be a quiet guy. I see nothing incriminating against RB besides his quietness- and the fact that my lead suspects think RB is guilty makes me think he is most likely innocent.
Anyhow- I'm probably not going to get a chance to post again until late Saturday (family coming into town)- so here is my last run down.
My suspects
1) JL - Almost certainly a vampire. I won't rehash my reasons I've posted them oft enough.
2) Rich - Has acted bizarre ever since his noodles swith. If innocent he has a funny way of playing.
3) Kash - Changed playing style dramatically after day one. Bizarre reasoning that made no sense to try and get people to vote off Bishop.
4) JM - Really not so sure about this one- but Rich looks to be distancing himself from JM after becoming a major candidate for lynching. Plus others seem more convinced so I'll respect their wisdom.
Possibles:
5) Ogre - nothing that I haven't already said- and no real reason.
6/7/8) Zaffy/Sand/Rocker - I don't know what to think about these 3 so I'll put them in the possible category
9)Coler - I had him leaning innocent until switching to JM a non-player from Rich a top suspect... it was probably a trap but enough to raise suspicion.
Probably Innocent:
10) J-Pap - I would have him as a possible- but due to Rich and JL whom I think almost certain vamps campaigning heavily against him makes me lean him innocent. If Rich and JL turn out innocent he would become top of the list. In such a tight race between Rich and Paps- with almost certain vampire, JL voting for Paps makes me think Paps is innocent.
11/12) lanimert/Paper Dragon - I think both are innocent- but how much are they hiding behind being new- lanimert in his baseless votes against Zaffy.
Finally, RB.
13) RB is a strange one in his quietness- but that is the only question mark on him- and I have looked back at last game and he was equally quiet- he just seems to be a quiet guy. I see nothing incriminating against RB besides his quietness- and the fact that my lead suspects think RB is guilty makes me think he is most likely innocent.
I will say Kash leaning on Rich eases some suspicion on her- unless it is distancing- but it would seem odd in such a close race where JPap looks equally likely and no one would suspect you for voting JPap to place a vote on Rich... UNLESS- a vampire already has a vote on him and is planning on switching it to JPap to even it out.
doing the right thing by voting for someone that you think is innocent? how is that right in any way?
I am not explaining again. Is that the only thing of interest that occurred to you all day?
I said why when I did it. it is not like you guys found out some great secret. Enjoy your vampire town.
There you go guys once a gain a brilliant post meaning nothing, making sue I get lynched. You all are so blind.
johnlarson66
These Pandas Rock
Wycco, you seem to be quite blinded by having me as a suspect to see the facts.
rich has not campaigned heavily against jpap. The fact is that he posted a vote for noods (who he thought was innocent) and when called on it, switched to Rb. rich has no interest in voting jpap, he might have jpap as a "canidate", but has not voted for jpap. His strange behavoir has caused people to switch from jpap to him and to focus on him instead of jpap.
If this game is still going on after jpap is lynched, then rich will be my next target (unless I am turned). Really no matter what jpap comes up as. I also have Rb as a suspect, but rich has moved above him. I would be suprised if all three (jpap, rich, Rb) are vampires, but I am confident one of them is and most likely two are.
rich has not campaigned heavily against jpap. The fact is that he posted a vote for noods (who he thought was innocent) and when called on it, switched to Rb. rich has no interest in voting jpap, he might have jpap as a "canidate", but has not voted for jpap. His strange behavoir has caused people to switch from jpap to him and to focus on him instead of jpap.
If this game is still going on after jpap is lynched, then rich will be my next target (unless I am turned). Really no matter what jpap comes up as. I also have Rb as a suspect, but rich has moved above him. I would be suprised if all three (jpap, rich, Rb) are vampires, but I am confident one of them is and most likely two are.
sure I'd vote Jpap. I vote to lynch Jpap. Jpap has accused almost everyone in town of being evil. I think this is so it will be hard to ferret info from his posts once he is dead
johnlarson66
These Pandas Rock
rich, you are the one making sure you get lynched. Why are you unwilling to vote jpap? Why were you unwilling to vote jpap last night? How come you are not voting for Rb again?
