Mafia 55...Badlands Twisted...the Play...

[dirtydawg10]

Does this conern anyone else? Two low profile players so far this game jumped on MC right after each other...

I could see annie (who has yet to play as scum I think) following a vet teammate but I'm not going to count on it. I just thought it was too weird not to point out.

I'm still more concerned with Z being very quiet.

Nice catch JPap...but I'm also concerned about Noods following you on your vote that just seems strange to me. This is a tough game so far to get a read because there's not much going on. If I had a vote I would use it on Wycco at this point. Up until now I have suspected JL the most. Wycco you just dropped JL down a notch...Here's my current suspect list in order.

Wycco
JL
MC
Noods
Z

I realise they can't all be scum but these are who I have the strongest feelings for so far. I wanted to get a list out there and hopefully get more people talking. INCLUDING MYSELF.

 

[noodles62]

Ok- Gonna do this in bits....

GAH!!!! I vote to genetically test MC. He was third on Bugz. Ogre wavered back and forth on her....Not sure my vote will stay there, but that is the first thought that comes to my mind. JL also was pushing pretty hard for a Bugz vote but did not vote for her himself...interesting....

Here is my first post after last nightfall....The fact that Mc was second on Luvbugz had concerned me the most at that moment...thus my vote.

I am such a dummy....didnt remember ogre is gone.

i retract my vote on ogre and vote to lynch LG

Lg was my first choice which was random and a vote I should of kept.

Whoa! ok???

Then the wierd post from MC and my reply....

Yeah it's late for me and I have had few too many drinks...I read through night, seen the results then read over what happened after night ,seen ogre posted and went to posting. I am a dork...with a short term memory...lol

Claiming too many drinks as the reason for the mess up on Ogre...

......ok. whatever - it really is not that late in NM.... I also have been indulging in "Beer" and have made my own mistakes, but still not buying this. Losing both Ogre and Bugz in one night needs to be answered to....More in the morning after I get some sleep.

ok, it was what 9:00 in NM at that point? Not really that late, but I guess it is plenty time to pound down a few brews....

This just seems too easy. I retract my vote for MC and vote to geneticaly test
Lady G. MC is too obvious and most likely another innocent. LG had been "stickin out" quite a bit this time around. I am glad to see her posting more this game but her posts seem phony....
hhhmmmm - this puts me on the same page as MC. not sure this is where I want to be....more thinkin is required.
I think I need to call it a night and re-evaluate tomorrow...

Here is where I waivered on MC and switched my vote to LG, my next suspect. MC really screwed up and drew lots of attention. Anyone that has played a few games knows that when you screw up in a post it will most likely get you lynched. Lord knows I have done it and been lynched for it. Therefore this makes me think perhaps MC is not scum. Why would he risk getting lynched by a stupid screw up? I think he is seasoned enough to not slip up like that......(I really hate when I second guess my initial instinct - drives me nuts!)

LG, my vote on you was due to your posts and how they struck me. Dont get me wrong, I am glad that you are able to play more this time around, but face it, I trust you as much as I do DD! :lipssealedsmilie:

 

[Lady G]

Wycco..sorry if you think my vote to Noods is odd. It is not, I have never been one to "follow the crowd" I state my thoughts and go with my gut pretty much. If in the end my vote would be a wasted vote I most likely would switch to one of the others if I felt they were evil. As you stated we have half a day left...lots can change in a half a day, so I don't really feel changing my vote to one I feel more strongly about is odd. IMO, it is the way to go about it. Now if I had switched it last minute right before night fall that would be a different story.

As far as John goes, I can see him as a high suspect..he is always a high suspect until known otherwise. The main thing keeping me from putting him as a top really is the hit on Ogre. This may sound strange to some...but I know from times of being evil, you don't hit the main one going after you, it just looks to obvious. Then the fact it WAS Ogre stands out to me also not just the fact he was going after John (to me that looks more like a set up), another thing I know from being evil...Ogre is a good one to keep in if you know he is innocent at least for a few days. Many times he will say something off that makes it easy to get the town to feel he is evil, hence making him a "easy target" so to say.
Now having said that though, John very well may of put the hit on him knowing others will think just what I thought. I am in no way clearing him and saying I think he is innocent, just that the Ogre hit makes him look less evil to me.

 

[Wycco]

Noodles makes a good point. I initially dismissed the whole Ogre thing as a simple mistake- my main reason for suspecting MC had nothing to do with it- but rather with his day one choice to make LB the main suspect and alone on three votes- and his later vote to try and distance himself from JL who is looking more and more guilty.

If MC were guilty he would have known Ogre was killed and so to post a vote for Ogre would have been a really dumb way of making himself look innocent and put himself on the hot-seat as it did.

I think MC deserves to continue being a suspect- he's had suspicious actions- but he perhaps doesn't deserve to be top suspect.



Another front runner- ZSand looks an equally bad choice to me. It seems the campaign against him seems mainly based upon him being quiet. From what I've seen, he's always quiet. Certainly doesn't get ZSand off the hook- but perhaps killing him would be a mistake.

If I were an investigator I would think ZSand would make a much better target to investigate rather than to out-right kill. At this early stage it doesn't make much sense to kill ZSand, unless he has already been investigated and found guilty.

 

[Lady G]

Noods, can you say why second on a person stands out more then other votes? Most games I have played we look more at who started it, the 3rd, and late switchers (or ones to jump off right before nightfall) what is it about the second to vote? Just curious.

I agree with the fact most the time someone makes a goofy statement, mistake or whatever you want to call it...the town jumps on them and they end up innocent. However there have been many times a evil does the same. OMG, we have had some MAJOR mess ups by evils...the best that comes to mind was a game Ice and Mee-Mee (someone who use to play lots) Ice had sent her a PM telling her what to say...she cut and pasted it into a post but forgot to take off the part that showed it was from Ice...OH, YEAH...BIG TIME MESS UPS LMAO!!!!!!!

Oh and :

 

[noodles62]

OK - I had a post allready to go with lots of quotes and something happened to this crappy system I have at work and I lost it all!!! :swear:

Anyway, to sum it up as my lunch hour is now over......I know it looks like I "followed" Jp onto Z; I cannot help if I agree with the points he has made, as others have done as well. Z has really not had any input in this game and it seems wired. Does that make him scummy? Not sure. I wish I was sure about SOMEBODY at this point!

 

[dirtydawg10]

Ok- Gonna do this in bits....



Here is my first post after last nightfall....The fact that Mc was second on Luvbugz had concerned me the most at that moment...thus my vote.





Then the wierd post from MC and my reply....



Claiming too many drinks as the reason for the mess up on Ogre...



ok, it was what 9:00 in NM at that point? Not really that late, but I guess it is plenty time to pound down a few brews....



Here is where I waivered on MC and switched my vote to LG, my next suspect. MC really screwed up and drew lots of attention. Anyone that has played a few games knows that when you screw up in a post it will most likely get you lynched. Lord knows I have done it and been lynched for it. Therefore this makes me think perhaps MC is not scum. Why would he risk getting lynched by a stupid screw up? I think he is seasoned enough to not slip up like that......(I really hate when I second guess my initial instinct - drives me nuts!)

LG, my vote on you was due to your posts and how they struck me. Dont get me wrong, I am glad that you are able to play more this time around, but face it, I trust you as much as I do DD! :lipssealedsmilie:

...and you are voting for Z...right?

 

[noodles62]

Noods, can you say why second on a person stands out more then other votes? Most games I have played we look more at who started it, the 3rd, and late switchers (or ones to jump off right before nightfall) what is it about the second to vote? Just curious.

I agree with the fact most the time someone makes a goofy statement, mistake or whatever you want to call it...the town jumps on them and they end up innocent. However there have been many times a evil does the same. OMG, we have had some MAJOR mess ups by evils...the best that comes to mind was a game Ice and Mee-Mee (someone who use to play lots) Ice had sent her a PM telling her what to say...she cut and pasted it into a post but forgot to take off the part that showed it was from Ice...OH, YEAH...BIG TIME MESS UPS LMAO!!!!!!!

Oh and :

Good point. Second seems like a good place to hide a vote IMO. You didnt start the train but are easily hiding among the votes. anyway, it looks like I mis-spoke a minute ago. he was third on Luv (as I noted in my initial post w/ vote for him) after Ogre. (but then Ogre retracted and the went back last minute) Rich was the one that placed the first vote on her......hhhhmmmm. Rich is who I put my very first vote on........

 

[dirtydawg10]

OK - I had a post allready to go with lots of quotes and something happened to this crappy system I have at work and I lost it all!!! :swear:

Anyway, to sum it up as my lunch hour is now over......I know it looks like I "followed" Jp onto Z; I cannot help if I agree with the points he has made, as others have done as well. Z has really not had any input in this game and it seems wired. Does that make him scummy? Not sure. I wish I was sure about SOMEBODY at this point!

I guess I didn't wait long enough.

So you followed MC and then JP. I think that's what LG is referring to.

 

[noodles62]

...and you are voting for Z...right?

Yes! I was answering the questions as to why my vote switched from MC to LG. I was preparing my multi quoted post on my switch to Z when my PC screwed up!