Mafia 55...Badlands Twisted...the Play...

so the Bio-Engineers get one more investigation tonite. I am inclined to thing that last nights results came back on an innocent as there is not charge against anyone other than me, who I know is innocent.

Just thinkin out loud....
Unless, of course it was on you and it came back as evil. I know you say you are innocent, but you have played this game long enough to know just saying your innocent does nothing but make others think otherwise. If you truely are innocent, instead of contantly saying it over and over it seems you would be diggin, kicking, and finding things on other ppl and trying to get others to see what you see. I know you say you can't really PROVE anything...but you could at least make a case and TRY to explain your opinion.
 
Now, Doll...you have me wondering very much also. Mainly the fact we are going into day 3 now and you haven't said much of anything (even about me) has me worried. I know how you like to post and run pretty much, but when you are innocent it seems you draw more attention to yourself because your posts actually have some substance. This round you pretty much are "observing" and commenting on what others have said and maybe adding a bit of your own.
 
I vote to genetically test Noods, of course.

I don't have time to get into much right now, and hopefully will be back later tonight to post some more thoughts. Sorry to post and run, but I only had a moment.
Are you voting her because ...well why? OR are you following the guidence of your team to lay low and just vote noods.

I thought it would be useful to post Wycco's opinions on the other players since he is a known evil.

Funny how he has Me and Jpappy as leaning innocent. One/Jpap which we know was their hit for the night and me, who he obviously set up (w/ my own help I guess) for the next innocent victim.

He has JL and MC as guilty. He tried really hard to build a case against JL and it almost worked, so I doubt this was just a distancing tactic.

All other players, he has no read on! Pretty vague to say the least.....
just some food for thought.
Thanks for posting that noods....now I would like to say thinking for a minute as a bad guy and knowing who else is bad...wycco's list would lead me to believe that the ones who he has no suspicion of or believes to be innocent are really scum...I know if I was in his shoes I would post a list of evils, and portray them innocent...Now that being said he would also throw a few in there like me who he had as guilty , which was a plan to reaffirm all the early votes on me as the right thing to do....Noods you were on that list as last....which means to me he was trying to protect you the most....also had you as innocent. Now there were also others innocent or no read on there...

LG is at the top of that list...now he casts some suspicion...maybe to look like he is distincing from her but still says he was leaning innocent....I think that is BS and she is guilty.
KASH, wycco has mixed feelings on her...but also says something that catched my eye... "just have to watch closely what little she does say" now I feel like he is also protecting her identity. The list is odd but I think there can be some clues with a bit of thought...Now he had me and JL as the only ones guilty....something to be said about this....He was after JL and all the votes were going for me at the time a good way for him to push suspicion on us and keep his team safe.....We did see through this although he did take a bio-engineer with him....Which brings me to why he had jpapp as leaning innocent....obiously they investigated him knew what he was and portrayed him as innocent knowing they would hit him.

I am not so sure noods is at the top of my list anymore....I have a bad feeling about LG and Kash....also he didnt say much at all for rocker which makes me think he really didn't know much about rocker....

I have heard from kash....she is doing a lot of really saying nothing...alot but nothing as wycco said to watch for...he gave us a good hint there. LG also just saying enough.

I feel like when I voted after night it wasn't from the heart...I gotta go with my instinct.....I am sure it may look suspicious but I have a gut feeling which in most of the games I have played has been right...

I retract my vote on noods and vote to genetically test Kashta
 
I'm sorry MC, I don't think you are an ES right now, but I can't see how Kash is an Evil. Her vote was on Wycco too early, before there was a train. In fact she kind of led the charge. If Wycco was just an average ES then MAYBE I could see her doing that, but he had very little suspicion on him till JL and myself added our votes for the way he was targeting us.

Now that said I HATE that there is only one candidate for Tonight's lynch. Mainly because it shuts down discussion as we can all see has happened today. But I really think we need to know Noodles place right now.
 
Are you voting her because ...well why? OR are you following the guidence of your team to lay low and just vote noods.

Thanks for posting that noods....now I would like to say thinking for a minute as a bad guy and knowing who else is bad...wycco's list would lead me to believe that the ones who he has no suspicion of or believes to be innocent are really scum...I know if I was in his shoes I would post a list of evils, and portray them innocent...Now that being said he would also throw a few in there like me who he had as guilty , which was a plan to reaffirm all the early votes on me as the right thing to do....Noods you were on that list as last....which means to me he was trying to protect you the most....also had you as innocent. Now there were also others innocent or no read on there...

LG is at the top of that list...now he casts some suspicion...maybe to look like he is distincing from her but still says he was leaning innocent....I think that is BS and she is guilty.
KASH, wycco has mixed feelings on her...but also says something that catched my eye... "just have to watch closely what little she does say" now I feel like he is also protecting her identity. The list is odd but I think there can be some clues with a bit of thought...Now he had me and JL as the only ones guilty....something to be said about this....He was after JL and all the votes were going for me at the time a good way for him to push suspicion on us and keep his team safe.....We did see through this although he did take a bio-engineer with him....Which brings me to why he had jpapp as leaning innocent....obiously they investigated him knew what he was and portrayed him as innocent knowing they would hit him.

I am not so sure noods is at the top of my list anymore....I have a bad feeling about LG and Kash....also he didnt say much at all for rocker which makes me think he really didn't know much about rocker....

I have heard from kash....she is doing a lot of really saying nothing...alot but nothing as wycco said to watch for...he gave us a good hint there. LG also just saying enough.

I feel like when I voted after night it wasn't from the heart...I gotta go with my instinct.....I am sure it may look suspicious but I have a gut feeling which in most of the games I have played has been right...

I retract my vote on noods and vote to genetically test Kashta
Ummmm, are we playing the same game? Have you read any of my posts? It's not like I just suddenly out of nowhere voted Noods:drool:
 
Kash you are just trying way to hard to prove your point that noods is scum.
Are you forgetting she also tried way hard to get Wycco...who btw was Dr. G? Hmmm, as Z pointed out if he ended up being just a average ES then yeah I could see the "sacrafice" of a team mate...been there, done that but you don't take out your top person.

Also, you said in your last post she is saying a whole lot of nothing...how can she be trying way to hard and saying nothing?
 
I'm sorry MC, I don't think you are an ES right now, but I can't see how Kash is an Evil. Her vote was on Wycco too early, before there was a train. In fact she kind of led the charge. If Wycco was just an average ES then MAYBE I could see her doing that, but he had very little suspicion on him till JL and myself added our votes for the way he was targeting us.

Now that said I HATE that there is only one candidate for Tonight's lynch. Mainly because it shuts down discussion as we can all see has happened today. But I really think we need to know Noodles place right now.

I agree, I wish there was more talk...I hate coming on after hours of being away to just one or two more posts.
 
Kash just curious how you know there are only 3 scientists. I have read the rules multiple times and see no mention of it.

Noods the case against you is more than a little slip up on your part.

This post made me nervous too. I went back and reread the rules again to see if there was mention of how many evils there would be. There wasn't.

Interesting since you said there are 3 scientists not maybe or at least or any thing like that. You said there are 3.

I changed to Wycco because as I said it made sense. I no idea what those others you mentioned were thinking. You need to ask them.

Yes she did. A freudian slip?

Rich wants me to keep this short, so I'll abbreviate the quotes in most cases. Click the links to see them in full.

I've split this up into two posts. This first one shows how everything changed for the evil team approx. 3 hours before nightfall.

I suggested there appeared to be a connection between Wycco and Noods... then I switched my vote to Wycco... then Zsand voted Wycco... then Johnlarson voted Wycco. During this stage... there was a lot of discussion going back and forth. The evil team did what they could to deflect suspicion.. while multiple townies continued to post questions, rebuttals, observations.







Here's where I posted a followup to explain my vote. After that, I saw the other 2 votes on Wycco by Zsand and JL which posted during the interim.



After this, Noodles posted a quick denial....



However, the focus on both Wycco/Noodles continued.....



Noodles and Wycco were both under a lot of pressure all of a sudden. Here, Noodles gives another excuse for not voting Wycco. (Before this, her reason had been it would be her 6th vote change and that might make her look bad.)



Jpappy continues that dialogue with Noods here.





Rich posts this now to acknowledge what's going on but says very little of substance.



Noods continues.. trying to defend herself. As a last resort she pretends not to know exactly what the vote count is.... the same tactic Annie fell back on too.



Around the same time, Wycco and I exchanged a series of posts back and forth. He tried to counter the growing suspicion against him. But only managed to make himself seem even MORE guilty.



JL agrees... and talks about other points which support the same supicions I had.



Annie appears in the thread at this time.. gives reasons why she's not been posting... and so on...

Annie takes a mild shot at Noodles to keep from being associated with her.



While that was going on... Wycco and I continued our discussion.



Wycco still tries to dismiss the points I made.



It was here that the evil team gave up trying to save Wycco. His game was over.... they all knew it. And that's when the rest of the evil team changed their votes over (almost) all at the same time. (Rocker was the last one to get his vote changed just before nightfall.)

Annie voted Noods to distance herself from the Noods/Wycco connection. Once Wycco goes down, it's obvious to them that Noodles will be next. In order for the evil team to still win this game, they need to keep ONE teammate alive. And with Wycco and Noodles exposed to be killed off... that leaves them with Rich, Annie, and Rocker to keep someone hidden.



See next post.....

I didn't vote Noods to distance. I voted Noods, because she seemed like a better choice than MC did. I changed my vote from JL to MC because, at the time, JL made posts that seemed pro town, MC made a post that seemed scummy to me. During the course of the day, Noods made a post even scummier than MC's, and JL, a player I am now leaning innocent, was the one that cracked Noods. Now keep in mind, JL did talk me into voting Jpap last game, who was evil, so I was nervous of my Noods vote at that point, but I no longer am. There is slim to no chance JL and Wycco were on the same team knowing Wycco was not only evil, but Dr Gene. Wycco practically killed himself going after JL.

Very nicely put together. You quoted a lot and said nothing.

As I said before I have no clue what motivated everyone else. i thought MC was a bad vote and decided Wy was a better one. I was right too. I will have to stop that.

Yep. I was guilty of skimming her posts in my last two games. A crime I won't be guilty of again. I suspect she is a scumbag. She tried to lay low, but us getting DR Gene last night has forced her hand. She's back to making long confusing posts that just clog the thread. I thought MC was a bad vote but switched to Noods. Wycco seemed like a scumbag to me at that point, but Noods moreso.


The town also lost one of the two bio-engineers, so I am not sure what you are so happy about. The only other person excited about the events at nightfall seems to be noods.

Wycco killed himself by trying to build a case on me out of nothing and defending noods. If it was not for his twisting of facts and out right defense of noods, who knows who would have gotten lynched. I think the Wycco meltdown was a lucky break and the hit on jpap was an unlucky break.

I have you as a suspect and wonder what you have done for the town this game. It is day three and you are still alive, are you going to start playing now?

It is easy to jump on the noods train, I am on it too.

Another post I agree with. DD is posting just enough to get by. Welcome to the game DD. You're a respected vet, yet you are doing zilch to help us. Thanks.

So if the Lab Worker votes noods, then really noods is voting noods.

What if the Lab Worker forgets to vote, does noods get her vote back? Who gets the extra vote then?

If noods screams but no one can hear her has she screamed?

LOL

does that mean I am your hit victim?

I vote to genetically test Noods, of course.

I don't have time to get into much right now, and hopefully will be back later tonight to post some more thoughts. Sorry to post and run, but I only had a moment.


Yep. Scumbag. Just like I thought. You And DD are exactly the same

convenient! :lipssealedsmilie:

and expected.


I started this post at 7 pm., its now 1040. my ex gf showed up here and all hell broke loose. there will be a million posts by now, i dont care, i learned last game if i refresh i lose all i typed, and im not gonna type it again. I
 
This post made me nervous too. I went back and reread the rules again to see if there was mention of how many evils there would be. There wasn't.



Yes she did. A freudian slip?



I didn't vote Noods to distance. I voted Noods, because she seemed like a better choice than MC did. I changed my vote from JL to MC because, at the time, JL made posts that seemed pro town, MC made a post that seemed scummy to me. During the course of the day, Noods made a post even scummier than MC's, and JL, a player I am now leaning innocent, was the one that cracked Noods. Now keep in mind, JL did talk me into voting Jpap last game, who was evil, so I was nervous of my Noods vote at that point, but I no longer am. There is slim to no chance JL and Wycco were on the same team knowing Wycco was not only evil, but Dr Gene. Wycco practically killed himself going after JL.



Yep. I was guilty of skimming her posts in my last two games. A crime I won't be guilty of again. I suspect she is a scumbag. She tried to lay low, but us getting DR Gene last night has forced her hand. She's back to making long confusing posts that just clog the thread. I thought MC was a bad vote but switched to Noods. Wycco seemed like a scumbag to me at that point, but Noods moreso.




Another post I agree with. DD is posting just enough to get by. Welcome to the game DD. You're a respected vet, yet you are doing zilch to help us. Thanks.



LOL






Yep. Scumbag. Just like I thought. You And DD are exactly the same



and expected.


I started this post at 7 pm., its now 1040. my ex gf showed up here and all hell broke loose. there will be a million posts by now, i dont care, i learned last game if i refresh i lose all i typed, and im not gonna type it again. I
HAHAHAHAHA! You are a funny one if nothing else...so after all this, who do you suspect? You just took what 3 hours to really say nothing?:clap:
 
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