I can easily get some csm+b, but I was under the impression that dosing with Fourish took care of the traces. Am I missing something?
Green Water Again?
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I think part of the enjoyment many reach with planted tanks..comes from the tinkering of the balance.. once that is reached you should have no need for UV to control algae.
while it may be a pain to reach..(believe me it took me a some of time). it is also part of the challenge.
while it may be a pain to reach..(believe me it took me a some of time). it is also part of the challenge.
No, that would not work for me. I keep flowering plants and like to start plants from the seeds they have; this requires I carry a substantial ppm of phosphorus in my water column and in root tabs. I also like to run a 16 hour photo-period and refuse to "black out" tanks; I have them to view, I want to be viewing them, etc., etc. For special plants, I will back down the photo-period to 8 hrs. for the time necessary to make some species bloom.
My experience is that UV has caused disease in my tanks to become virtually non-existent. Indeed, I believe UV creates redox levels and ozone which drastically impacts the ability of most algaes to grow in my tanks. What algae does grow is easily controlled with mechanical cleanings, hydrogen peroxide every couple or three months--I run Glutaraldehyde in all tanks at 3x recommended, daily doses (initial dose follows manufactures instructions.)
I am not willing to change all of this. UV is the answer, set it once, forget about it, for me ... the benefits are all positive and many.
I understand now, you are simply stating that, that is your preference in how to control and deal with algae. Thanks for explaining ...
Addition: I forgot, I run ALL nutrients (micros, carbon, etc.) at HIGH LEVELS, undoubtedly my plants are into luxury uptake (or, luxury consumption) of nutrients, this is quite normal, plants do it very nicely ... I only have to do "ballpark" fertilizing, i.e., just keep nutrients below toxic levels to tank inhabitants. I even add such esoteric elements as chromium, iodine, etc.
Regards,
TA
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no you should be good with that but once you run out it would be in your best interest to just buy the CSM+B, much much cheaper.
tec - how many WPG you run over your tanks?
I have been running an AHS 55 watt Brite Kit for 10 hrs over my 29 gal tall. Cut it back to 6 hrs until the water clears up.
What kind of root tabs? These don't use urea or ammonia as a source of nitrogen do they. Excessive ammonia with light will give you green water everytime.
TechAquaria
I have a 20 at home that has been running nitrates over 20 ppm, phosphates around 5 ppm, micros 3 X a week and 55 watts with CO2, no bba, no green water, no algae, no UV.
Good call canuck, could be any amonia in the root tabs. try pulling the root tabs out and see what happens.
Tech - you are dosing 3x the recommended dose of Glutaraldehyd, which is a biocide - that by definition, kills living organisms. now what in your tank is preventing algae? UV, biocide, both? at the dose you are stating i bet that your biocide is taking care of all forms of algae that may live in your tank and your UV sterilizer isnt doing much of anything at all. remove the Glut. from this equation and you might have disasterous algae break outs in your tanks.
Okay - why i went so far into this: you recommended to the OP that the addition of UV will kill and sterilize and clear up their water and that is all that they need to do. you stated that is what you do to get good, clear water etc.etc.etc. well you only gave them 1/2 of your recipe for fixing the problem. it is like telling someone that all they need is flour to make bread and not telling them they need yeast, water and an oven. you should be suggesting UV, Biocides, and whatever else you use. to help fix or cover up your problems. IMHO this method covers up any problems that are created with strange fert dosing and 16 hour photo period.
Tech - you are dosing 3x the recommended dose of Glutaraldehyd, which is a biocide - that by definition, kills living organisms. now what in your tank is preventing algae? UV, biocide, both? at the dose you are stating i bet that your biocide is taking care of all forms of algae that may live in your tank and your UV sterilizer isnt doing much of anything at all. remove the Glut. from this equation and you might have disasterous algae break outs in your tanks.
Okay - why i went so far into this: you recommended to the OP that the addition of UV will kill and sterilize and clear up their water and that is all that they need to do. you stated that is what you do to get good, clear water etc.etc.etc. well you only gave them 1/2 of your recipe for fixing the problem. it is like telling someone that all they need is flour to make bread and not telling them they need yeast, water and an oven. you should be suggesting UV, Biocides, and whatever else you use. to help fix or cover up your problems. IMHO this method covers up any problems that are created with strange fert dosing and 16 hour photo period.
UV sterilizers only treat the water that goes through is, not the problem! How many fish do you have and what size tank? Ive recently discovered the natural solution to most filtering problems, a large sump with lots of bioballs and ceramic rings, works wonders!!! Ill give you details of my setup if ya want:goldfish:
