Ever since day 1 you didn't sit right in my mind and you haven't given a reason for me (or many other people) to belive that you are innocent and we should keep you around.
Mafia #60: A Clash at Christmas- The Play
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If you can prove that you are a good elf, then I will change my vote but until then the town needs a plan in order to win.
Dangerdoll
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ok, so I will call that a "gut" feeling... funny being a newbie and all, that you would come to that decision. I have seen no other reason that the voting thing for people to assume that I am evil..... this "many other people" is called a train... funny how you know some things... and others you don't
and how can I prove I am innocent that I haven't already stated... there is no other way. My fate is sealed and I accept that, that I can't accept is the fact that out of everyone, you seem to be reminding people the most of "how DD must go tonight"
and how can I prove I am innocent that I haven't already stated... there is no other way. My fate is sealed and I accept that, that I can't accept is the fact that out of everyone, you seem to be reminding people the most of "how DD must go tonight"
I dont get how invest prove anything. They cant both post results at the same time. One just agrees with the other, proves nothing.
I think that this is a TRS attempt to save the game after the grinch came out and JB made his play. The problem is we have no clue who the rest of the cast is. We vote TRS off and he is guilty we win. Santa cant go down we would know who he is, it be a methodical killing of folks till we get them all.
If TRS is Santa we lose.
Who are the other elves? DD, dawg, razzle?
We go JB we have the same scenario in the other direction. Do we want to risk all this early or go the DD route?
For now I vote to lynch DD.
I think that this is a TRS attempt to save the game after the grinch came out and JB made his play. The problem is we have no clue who the rest of the cast is. We vote TRS off and he is guilty we win. Santa cant go down we would know who he is, it be a methodical killing of folks till we get them all.
If TRS is Santa we lose.
Who are the other elves? DD, dawg, razzle?
We go JB we have the same scenario in the other direction. Do we want to risk all this early or go the DD route?
For now I vote to lynch DD.
You even said it yourself that playing a newb card isn't a good idea, so why did you bring it back up? If you want to play that way then being a vet I know that you, of all people, could pull off a fake.
Dangerdoll
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I can't find it now but at some point early on you called me out for bringing up the fact that I was/am a newb and said pretty much the same thing. About what I said about you pulling off a fake, I wouldn't put it past any of the vets to be able to play as the other team while still maintaining the upper hand.
Please explain to me as you would to a 5yr old why investigating TRS does anything for the town? All it does is cover your a$$. If you KNOW he is evil it makes no difference if he is communicating or not. He still needs to go. If you don't invest Z tonight you will be receiving my vote tomorrow.
How so?
For those that don't understand I'll try my best to explain it.
There are 4 evil and 7 innocent right now. I would like to see DD go because with the events close to nightfall and the vote switch she seems to be the best candidate right now. If she turns up innocent it will be 4 evil to 6 innocent.
If both Santas investigate Z and both confirm innocent then Z stays in the game. If either of the other 2 options happen (they both confirm evil or have a split decision) Then Z is lynched. If both confirm Z is evil we will know he is evil and risk nothing. If the split decision comes up and we lynch him we know without a doubt who was lying. Worst case if we lynch Z and he is innocent we still control the vote at 4 evil to 5 innocent but we will have a confirmed evil to lynch the next night putting us at 3 evil to 5 innocent.
Stay with me...the reason this works Rich is because we know thw real Santa will be telling the truth. If the evil elf confirms what the real Santa gets from the invest than we know what Z is because the real Santa is telling the truth and the evil posing as the other Santa will have just followed along. I hope this makes sense.
Dawg,
Bullying me into how to use my invest will not work. It seems invevitable that DD will go tonight and we will know her role. My invest of TRS and whether or not he is communicating will help me clear up suspicions of who he may be working with. I'm sorry if you don't see that, but it's the best plan I have to go with at the moment. As I've said before. Vote your conscience. I think if you look back through the thread, you'll see that I have been doing my best to help the town from the beginning.
And it seems odd that you are so willing to sacrifice innocent townies. Not to mention the fact that you were pretty laid back until this whole thing blew up. Why did you decide to wait until now to get involved? I think you are also communicating with TRS. And may very well be my invest tomorrow night.
Vote how you will townies. But at this point I firmly believe in DD's innocence and TRS's guilt. I have suspicions about Dawg and Z and Razz, as well as every one else who's role isn't known for certain. But it seems we'll have to wait a while to find anything out for certain. I urge everyone to take this time to go back through the thread and decide for yourself.
Your just trying to cover your butt jbradt. You dont have investigations anyways, I bet you dont even know how to do them. This whple thing is very stupid, I dont even know if I can put up with three days of this crap.
