Mafia 61: The Gunslinger - Game Thread

Even with that in mind, with the slight chance that Agass is innocent I would say Lab would be the likely choice.

Lab_Rat said:
My suspects in red, vanilla in blue from the original player list:
Agassizii
 Annie
 Dawg
Ice-obviously vanilla
JB-Seems awful sure someone who was mafia last game is mafia again and he had many fooled last time. seems to be playing a similar style game as he did with Ice last game, except with Jpappy this time
 Jpap-Seems to be distancing himself from JB, yet they seem to be saying the same thing
 Kash
Lab_Rat-I know my own role, vanilla
RazzleFish-Also noticed Razz was logged onto the thread for a very long time yesterday without saying anything. The claim of not knowing the game started is very weak.
TRS-Where is Red? Why hasn't he posted?
 Z
 Zaffy
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TRS (known mafia) is listed but as we see below it wasn't for an actual purpose other than not posting.

Also has Razz (known innocent), JB (who I think is innocent), and me (I know I'm innocent) as the other suspects.

Lab_Rat said:
Maybe I'm missing something here, but how is this a "nerve wrenching Night 1" if you are anyone but Ice or a mafia goon???

Admittedly, Ice had all the pressure on him, you even say so yourself. I can see how it would be nerve wracking if you are mafia...if you're an innocent vanilla townie then worst that happens to you is you become gunslinger (though it does suck the town would lose Ice). Oh yeah, that's right...you admitted to being strawberry cheesecake flavored, not vanilla. That still sticks out as odd to me.

Based on the fact that Annie showed mafia, the banter you two had going back and forth, and some of the off posts you have made, I'm thinking you're mafia scum.

My revised list is
Zsand-for reasons stated above
Jbradt-on the fence about him, his post about Annie right before Annie got shot seems to clear him, though for the reasons Kash said could have been a brilliant distancing mafia move
Jpap-still seems he and Jbradt are agreeing a lot while pseudodistancing

I still think Razz is a bit scummy with the whole not posting/claiming not to know the game had started. Maybe he's mafia instead of Jpap. Kash just doesn't have a mafia vibe about her, at least not that I can pickup on. Same with Dawg. Leaning towards Zaffy being vanilla. Neither Agassizii nor TRS have posted much (had TRS on my previous list simply because he hadn't contributed) but what they've posted hasn't set off warning bells in my head.

That's just this vanilla townies $0.02, thoughts are subject to change as more people weigh in.
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Adds Z in to the mix, who we know is innocent. TRS drops off the list.

Lab_Rat said:
A girl goes to a BCS party and misses out on a huge play...awesome job Sheriff Ice!

I will post my two suspects since you asked. I'll probably need change from my $0.02 as Zaffy didn't register as scummy to me.

I still think there is something off with Zsand. Nothing he has posted has changed my suspicion about him being mafia scum. He does "seem" to be pro-town, but from what I can tell he doesn't seem to have really brought out any mafia scum.

Razz also seems off, most posts are fluffy and lack insight. Is he trying to avoid Ice's sights?

Though you didn't ask for a possible third, I'll lay one out that no one else has really mentioned. Agassizii has been extremely quiet. I haven't seen him contribute much, certainly haven't noticed anything that would help the town. I could see him being coached to stay quiet and lay low.

I realize my list has changed, I can't decide about jb or jpap, but I wanted to throw those others out for consideration (especially Agassizii). I know I'm not a high poster and I'm sure some mafia goon will try to turn this on me, but I am trying to help the town as much as possible without causing confusion. Please take my list with a grain of salt, right now I have no sure feelings.
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Suspects or suspicious of:
Zs
Agass
Razz
Jb
Jpap

This "list" contains mostly innocents or people I suspect/know are innocent. If Agass is innocent then that would be 100%.

I understand that townies have off games but I'm wondering if thats really the case here. I'm going to pull posts from our known mafia and see what they had to say about Lab.
 
AnniesNotOK said:
Kash
Jpap
Lab
JB/Zaffy

Total guess at this point.
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The Red Severum said:
nice shot iceman, you made that interesting!
I could lean towards going the way of kash, she has been a bit finger pointy and to jump and squash anything going her way.

My list
Kash
Jpap/jbrady
lab
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Zaffy said:
Agassizii - No idea. Not helping, not hurting as far as I know.
Dawg - The suspicious thing about him is that nothing stands out, Normally he's a bigger player I think.
JB - Big help against annie on night one, a hero. See below.
Jpap - I could go either way on Jpap right now.
Kash - Shes clever, gotta watch her. Leaning town right now though.
Lab_Rat - Nothing jumps out, fewer posts than me?
RazzleFish - I dunno the deal with Razzle. Could go either way.
TRS - Not a big poster, playing his cards close, but he always does.
Z - Weird timing on a post imo, might be tinfoil, might be swamp gas from venus, might be scum. I could see shooting him.

I wonder about a Zsand and JB link, Zsand is pretty sure that JB is vanilla. He makes some good points. But if the scum team knew Annie was making a target of himself JB's post is a great distancing tool with Zsands support even better.

My mafia team is Zsand, JB, Anyone, Annie.
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2/3 of the known mafia had Lab as a "suspect". Not sure what to make of that though.

I'd also like to note that the fact that Zaffy tried to nail both Zsand (innocent) and JB as mafia teammates nearly clears JB in my mind.

As of now I still would like to see Agass shot first. I believe we would still have one last chance and I see Lab as the next best target.
 
Not sure why you're building a case against me already, jpap...I'm pretty darn convinced Ag is the last mafia. I know it's not me.

Your actions are making me rethink your position...do you know Ag will show innocent??? Is that your plan, get Ag shot then train him on me for the mafia win? I have to say, this is a bit concerning. It's a pretty brilliant plan if that is what you have in mind. In fact, that's pretty much what you said before...

jpappy789 said:
Z --> Agass --> Razz?

Just a thought. Again, no need to rush.
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I agreed with you because those were my top three choices for mafia scum. Only I rearranged it as I suspected Ag more than the other two who have shown innocent now.


I still believe Ag is mafia from his scummy timing, lack of helping the town, and his sitting back stance, answering the gunslingers questions only after they have taken their shot, watching all these innocents get shot.

Maybe you can explain why you're building a case against me when Ag is still the least trusted of the town and has been my top suspect for a while now.
 
Did you not read what I said?

"As of now I still would like to see Agass shot first. I believe we would still have one last chance and I see Lab as the next best target"

Since Ice the slinger role has been passed around...people were certain about Kash, Dawg, Zsand, and Razz too but we're still looking for that last player. I'd rather be thinking about this now then get stuck in panic mode if Agass comes up innocent.
 
jpappy789 said:
Did you not read what I said?

"As of now I still would like to see Agass shot first. I believe we would still have one last chance and I see Lab as the next best target"

Since Ice the slinger role has been passed around...people were certain about Kash, Dawg, Zsand, and Razz too but we're still looking for that last player. I'd rather be thinking about this now then get stuck in panic mode if Agass comes up innocent.
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I did read what you said...but I know my role and it seems to me like you're grasping at straws with your accusations against me. I'm pretty confident this game will be over if Razz shoots Ag, therefore your looking for further mafia struck me as odd.

All I can say, is if for some reason Ag does not show mafia (which I'm 96% sure he will), I know who to look at for the last scum...
 
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