Mafia 61: The Gunslinger - Game Thread

[RazzleFish]

Ok so I'm the new GS! So I have to look into both Lab and Jpap's posts but for now I am thinking Agass as the last one........ (That would be so cool if I took the game winning shot!) Ok so now to do some reading. Also, how do you quote multiple people in one post?

 

[Lab_Rat]

Ok so I'm the new GS! So I have to look into both Lab and Jpap's posts but for now I am thinking Agass as the last one........ (That would be so cool if I took the game winning shot!) Ok so now to do some reading. Also, how do you quote multiple people in one post?

I think it would be awesome if you took the game winning shot. :woot: Please ask if you need clarification about anything I've said.

I think to do mulitquotes you hit the " " button at the bottom, but half the time I forget to do that.

 

[RazzleFish]

Players left:
Agassizii
JB
Jpap
Lab_Rat
RazzleFish

Ok we have 5 players left, 4 Townies, 1 Mafia. I am thinking Agass but I want to know who I should shoot and why. I know we have done this before but things have changed now that I am not a suspect anymore.

We have Lab's and Jpap's picks but I want to know what everyone else thinks.

So far:
Ag- Jpap1, Lab1, JB1
JB-Jpap3, Lab3, Ag3
Jpap- Lab2, Ag2
Lab- Ag1,Jpap2

*Note, the number next to each persons name marks the order they listed this person in their suspect list.

JB, if you want to post a full list please do.

So, we have AG and JB with three votes but all of Ag's are #1 picks while JB's are #3 picks. I am really looking into Lab's post since he does have one #1 pick (It is from Ag, but still)

 

[RazzleFish]

^^ Edit, we also have Agass' list. I added that after and forgot to change it.

 

[Agassizii]

I would prefer not to be shot since it will waste one of our last shots. Not really much I can say to make people think I'm innocent at this point. My posting habits and behavior this game truly have shown that I am the last mafia. I am not though.

Since I believe that I will most likely be making the last shot, I decided to go through and pull the suspect lists from the dead mafia as well as Lab Rats.

Kash
Jpap
Lab
JB/Zaffy

Total guess at this point.

Lists Lab as a suspect...

Right now I am a bit confused with it all. I got my suspects, but not quite sure. Razz bothers me that he has been on the thread and "forgot" it started, but what would be the point in shooting him? If he was a innocent, then we have a mute gunslinger. So I would not go that way. I feel the same way about agaissizii.

Labby seems a bit finger pointy right now, and which is usually a sign of mafia.

I would look at the people distancing themselves from each other, like jb and jpap which would be a good way to throw your hit if I was you. If you hit one of them and there innocent, I would be faithful they can handle being gunslinger, and if they are mafia then we lost one of the top dawgs of the group.

Like I said, my esp is still searching, and I am on the fence.
Labby, why did you leave some players off like kash,z,ag,annie and dawg?

Points finger at Labby. Could be doing that to help distance himself from her...

Agassizii - No idea. Not helping, not hurting as far as I know.
Dawg - The suspicious thing about him is that nothing stands out, Normally he's a bigger player I think.
JB - Big help against annie on night one, a hero. See below.
Jpap - I could go either way on Jpap right now.
Kash - Shes clever, gotta watch her. Leaning town right now though.
Lab_Rat - Nothing jumps out, fewer posts than me?
RazzleFish - I dunno the deal with Razzle. Could go either way.
TRS - Not a big poster, playing his cards close, but he always does.
Z - Weird timing on a post imo, might be tinfoil, might be swamp gas from venus, might be scum. I could see shooting him.

I wonder about a Zsand and JB link, Zsand is pretty sure that JB is vanilla. He makes some good points. But if the scum team knew Annie was making a target of himself JB's post is a great distancing tool with Zsands support even better.

My mafia team is Zsand, JB, Anyone, Annie.

Does pretty much the same thing that Annie did. Doesn't call her a mafia, but doesn't call her an innocent either.

My suspects in red, vanilla in blue from the original player list:
Agassizii
Annie
Dawg
Ice-obviously vanilla
JB-Seems awful sure someone who was mafia last game is mafia again and he had many fooled last time. seems to be playing a similar style game as he did with Ice last game, except with Jpappy this time
Jpap-Seems to be distancing himself from JB, yet they seem to be saying the same thing
Kash
Lab_Rat-I know my own role, vanilla
RazzleFish-Also noticed Razz was logged onto the thread for a very long time yesterday without saying anything. The claim of not knowing the game started is very weak.
TRS-Where is Red? Why hasn't he posted?
Z
Zaffy

Doesn't list Zaffy or Annie as a top suspect. She does list TRS as a suspect, but only because of his low posting habits.

A girl goes to a BCS party and misses out on a huge play...awesome job Sheriff Ice!

I will post my two suspects since you asked. I'll probably need change from my $0.02 as Zaffy didn't register as scummy to me.

I still think there is something off with Zsand. Nothing he has posted has changed my suspicion about him being mafia scum. He does "seem" to be pro-town, but from what I can tell he doesn't seem to have really brought out any mafia scum.

Razz also seems off, most posts are fluffy and lack insight. Is he trying to avoid Ice's sights?

Though you didn't ask for a possible third, I'll lay one out that no one else has really mentioned. Agassizii has been extremely quiet. I haven't seen him contribute much, certainly haven't noticed anything that would help the town. I could see him being coached to stay quiet and lay low.

I realize my list has changed, I can't decide about jb or jpap, but I wanted to throw those others out for consideration (especially Agassizii). I know I'm not a high poster and I'm sure some mafia goon will try to turn this on me, but I am trying to help the town as much as possible without causing confusion. Please take my list with a grain of salt, right now I have no sure feelings.

All three dead mafia have distanced themselves from her. Annie and Zaffy both listed her on their list. TRS pointed fingers at her.

Lab never had Annie or Zaffy on her suspect list. She had TRS on there for his low posting habits, but later took him off. She has been suspecting innocents the entire game. After three of the mafia were killed, she began posting more. All of the three dead mafia were low posters, just like she was at the time. After that, she began to suspect Razz (a known innocent) and myself (I know I'm innocent) as being mafia.

She has played a good game, but now it is time to shoot her and end the game. Whether that be by Razz shooting her, or by Razz shooting me to clarify my innocence and letting me take the shot.

It also wouldn't be too surprising to find out that Jpap is the last mafia. He has been pro-town the entire game and hasn't sided with any of the dead mafia, but that would be a great thing for a mafia to do to that be shot.

Z --> Agass --> Razz?

Just a thought. Again, no need to rush.

Since Z, Razz and myself were the leading suspects at the time, he could of posted this to help push the town into believing that one of those suspects is the last mafia.

As of now, he wants me to be shot first. Since he probably knows I'm innocent and knows that I will be taking the next shot, he starts to put blame on the person who I listed as my top suspect (Lab_Rat).

I am pretty sure either Lab or Jpap are the last mafia, but not sure which one.

 

[Agassizii]

Suspect List:

1. Lab Rat
2. Jpap
3. Jb

 

[Lab_Rat]

So, we have AG and JB with three votes but all of Ag's are #1 picks while JB's are #3 picks. I am really looking into Lab's post since he does have one #1 pick (It is from Ag, but still)

Please do look into my posts Razz, you'll see nothing but me trying to help the town. Ag is trying to throw me under the bus from what I can tell...he's gotta name someone and now he can no longer point towards you.

Of note, it does strike me as odd how jpappy has already started building a case against me when he's also so sure Ag is mafia. His reasoning is that he doesn't want to panic if Ag shows innocent. Now he is much more experienced than I am at this game so maybe he really is being proactive but I think it's very odd and suspicious (especially because I know my role).

I agree it would be nice to hear jb's thoughts.

 

[RazzleFish]

I have looked through some of your posts, Lab, and not much came up so I switched and did what Ag already did. Note I was doing this while she posted her findings:

I think its because he was the most dangerous of the given choices. Makes sense to make the best players choose first, while they have as little info as possible to go on.

As Mad noted in the sign up thread it will be important to grill each other in order to find links, as there are no voting trails to follow.

Why do you think they chose Ice Z???

Annie tells us why the mafia chose Ice as the first GS. No connections here but I just thought I'd throw it out there.

Woo game on, weird they picked ice. Makes me wonder if they are a lower speaking group, and they wanted the big talker out earlierr...
game play is a bit interesting.

TRS tells us the mafias plan but why? Maybe he and Annie weren't expecting to be taken out so early...... Oh, and the multiquote works!

I don't think you should shoot me.

I don't think you should shoot me because it is anti-town. I'm a vanilla townie. Vanilla Annie. Half of Canada is french, luckily I'm not French Vanilla Annie. Of course I'm the only one besides you and them who knows that at this point.

I think yours will be a difficult choice. I agree with Z the 48 hours shouldn't start until all have posted, to be fair. The scum can easily hide in a format like this, especially with no voting trails.

Again Annie tries to point out low posters and look where that got us..... To me!

Why would it be fun to be the gunslinger??? Especially the first one??? Its almost a shot in the dark, especially if the mafia plan is to lay low and let the people posting the most get themselves killed....welcome to my scum meter LB.

I'm glad I'm not the Gunslinger, but if I was I might shoot you. :shocked:

In responce to Lab's "It would be fun to be GS" thing and again, points out low posters!

Well Jpap, in this game and this format, I'd have to say I agree with you, Ice was their (your) best choice.

I also agree with Ice, Kash or you would have been a better choice. My top three would be Kash, Jpap, Ice, in that order, unless of course Jpap and Kash were on my team.

If Ice shot me now, I'd shoot you or Kash next. Wanna know why? Ask.

Annie tries to pull Kash (known innocent) and Jpap into her posts. Maybe trying to make a link later in the game.....

I am a bit confused at this statement. Are you saying you rather have someone like AG as the gunslinger, who has very little grasp to the game, then someone like ice who usually can find the mafia by how they post? If so, I disagree and agree. I think we need to talk about that as a town as your point is good too.

This was in responce to a post be Kash:

Even if it's a miss and we lose you in the game as a result, at least you're not putting another good mafia hunter into the next risky gunslinger position so soon.

This is odd. He tries to change how Kash and the town feel about Agass dispite the fact that he sugested shooting low posters......

Kash- If you are not mafium, then I conclude you are the biggest threat to them. If you are mafium, you're the biggest threat to us. While the reasoning is weak, I have both you and Jpap leaning scum because you weren't selected as the first Gunslinger. I believe you weren't selected because one or both of you was the person choosing the Gunslinger. Again I will admit this is more of a gut feeling than anything else. If I were to take a shot now, I would shoot you or Jpap at this point. If I was wrong, at least I've given the gun to a more experienced player

Red Part- looks like a lot of double talk.

Blue part- correct. I am stating that if I were choosing a Gunslinger, and you were innocent, I would have chosen you first and forced you to make your desicion with as little information as possible. But somehow I don't think that is the case my spaghetti slurping friend.

Annie said that Kash (known innocent) and/or Jpap as Mafia players......

Right now I am a bit confused with it all. I got my suspects, but not quite sure. Razz bothers me that he has been on the thread and "forgot" it started, but what would be the point in shooting him? If he was a innocent, then we have a mute gunslinger. So I would not go that way. I feel the same way about agaissizii.

Labby seems a bit finger pointy right now, and which is usually a sign of mafia.

I would look at the people distancing themselves from each other, like jb and jpap which would be a good way to throw your hit if I was you. If you hit one of them and there innocent, I would be faithful they can handle being gunslinger, and if they are mafia then we lost one of the top dawgs of the group.

Like I said, my esp is still searching, and I am on the fence.
Labby, why did you leave some players off like kash,z,ag,annie and dawg?

I think he was planning on keeping the low posters..... He must have changed his mind when Annie became a target.

That is it for posts 1-120 I am posting this because if I loose it, again, it wont be as big of a loss.

 

[Agassizii]

I would prefer not to be shot since it will waste one of our last shots. Not really much I can say to make people think I'm innocent at this point. My posting habits and behavior this game truly have shown that I am the last mafia. I am not though.

Since I believe that I will most likely be making the last shot, I decided to go through and pull the suspect lists from the dead mafia as well as Lab Rats.



Lists Lab as a suspect...



Points finger at Labby. Could be doing that to help distance himself from her...



Does pretty much the same thing that Annie did. Doesn't call her a mafia, but doesn't call her an innocent either.



Doesn't list Zaffy or Annie as a top suspect. She does list TRS as a suspect, but only because of his low posting habits.




All three dead mafia have distanced themselves from her. Annie and Zaffy both listed her on their list. TRS pointed fingers at her.

Lab never had Annie or Zaffy on her suspect list. She had TRS on there for his low posting habits, but later took him off. She has been suspecting innocents the entire game. After three of the mafia were killed, she began posting more. All of the three dead mafia were low posters, just like she was at the time. After that, she began to suspect Razz (a known innocent) and myself (I know I'm innocent) as being mafia.

She has played a good game, but now it is time to shoot her and end the game. Whether that be by Razz shooting her, or by Razz shooting me to clarify my innocence and letting me take the shot.

It also wouldn't be too surprising to find out that Jpap is the last mafia. He has been pro-town the entire game and hasn't sided with any of the dead mafia, but that would be a great thing for a mafia to do to that be shot.



Since Z, Razz and myself were the leading suspects at the time, he could of posted this to help push the town into believing that one of those suspects is the last mafia.

As of now, he wants me to be shot first. Since he probably knows I'm innocent and knows that I will be taking the next shot, he starts to put blame on the person who I listed as my top suspect (Lab_Rat).

I am pretty sure either Lab or Jpap are the last mafia, but not sure which one.

Should say "but that would be a great thing for a mafia to do to avoid being shot".

 

[RazzleFish]

So Ag, say I shoot you and you come up innocent. Who will you shoot and why?

If I shoot you and you are innocent then we will have 1GS, 3 Townies, and 1 Mafia. If you shoot Lab and she is innocent, we have 1GS, 2 Townies, 1 Mafia. This is the same for JB. That means that they MUST make the correct shot. I hope that if I am wrong, that you are right but we need to be more sure. Please note that this does not mean Ag is my shot, I still may take a different approach.