Mafia 62- The Play

Having Zaff and Razz in the lynch tells us where the rest of the Mafia are I think. Or at least gets us closer, they have to do everything in their power to save themselves now so if they are both Mafia I don't expect to see much movement but if its 1 and 1 then votes should shift like they did last Night.

See Ice can I call it an Ice-ism not :P

I think two is enough, if we ran three we spread too thin and give the Mafia too much flex. Zaffy and Razz are my top two. Mich is the unknown.

Another person to mention is DD, she has been an absolute ghost this game, I'd expect her to be more outspoken if she were a PR, but the fact no one is even mentioning her is bothersome. I'd pull posts at this point but I don't think there are many. In fact we could say she's doing just what Mich is doing.

DD's voting pattern fits an innocent imo, she voted Ag with the landslide on day 1, day 2 she was the lynch-winning 5th vote on Noodles, day 3 she was on Dawg. I think she's just been voting to keep from UD at this point.
 
The shield was weak to begin with especially when you couldn't pull 2 more names to fit the theory.

I'll leave the 2nd comment alone. To many acceptable answers for that one.

How could you not have an opinion one way or the other on Razz or Dawg? Weren't the cases against either good enough for you?



Zaffy was on my 1st list. Nothing has changed IMO.

I spent most of the weekend with my girlfriend, and friends to celebrate my birthday. So I wasn't reading the thread too deeply. My sin here is skimming.

You should vote for me then.
 
I went through and looked through Zaffy's posts..... Warning Long Post Ahead!!

#28 by Zaffy
"I vote to lynch Dirtydawg10

As chosen by random.org number generator. It says you're scum, what do you say to that?

I found out yesterday that this site is blocked at work, I can't help but think Kash is somewhat responsible for that, so she's on my list too.

The rest of my list is equal between everyone else and the above."

Random...... Why even waste the time?

#109 by Zaffy
"Is this the famous pap-trap(tm) that people (I think Kash in the last game or two) have referred to in the past?

Ask a vague question, get any answer, twist it into an accusation.

I retract my vote on dawg and vote to lynch jpap.

You've been grilling Ag for the last page about what's essentially a non-issue, you said so yourself."

.............

#204 by Zaffy
"If ag comes up scum, then you're off the hook for now imo, if not then I'm gonna keep you on my short list.

I'd like some others input on it though. What do people think, did jpap trap ag? or was he just bush kicking? or was it something else?"

I just don't understand why you spent so much time on this. Yes, he may have baited Ag but why did you drag this out so long?

#271 by Zaffy
"My top suspects:

Jpap - I feel like he trapped Ag.
DD - I feel like she followed the crowd on Ag, and now on Jpap. That's not like her imo.
Mich - Imply the game isn't worth playing if you're not scum, and he's still playing."

So list is all people that weren't top suspects at the time and still aren't. I feel this may have been an attempt to hide behind players that weren't being looked at. Odd.......

#326 by Zaffy
"I've seen enough from Pappythat I'll give him the benefit of the doubt for now. I'm gonna keep him on my short list though.

I don't want to vote Lab because I hate landslides, and everyone I suspect aside from Lab herself, and DD are voting on her; Jpap, noodles, Ice.

I don't like Ice's whole deal with begging for protection, if he's scum and the Dr. buys it, it's a guarantee that their hits will go off without a hitch. He's poking at everyone just a bit, which I like though.

Noodles, I suspect for a reason that I'm keeping to myself for right now, I'll see what happens there."

I don't understand this part. Why is it that you were so confident that Jpap was/is mafia and now he is just off the top of your list? Who replaced him?

#332 by Zaffy
"I'm nearly certain there is at least 1, possibly more scum votes on Lab right now. They could be sacrificing a weak link? or just letting us lynch a townie?

Normally I agree, but I want to give it another day and see what happens tonight."

You didn't tell us why you suspected Noods....... Is it because she was/is on your team and you didn't want to give her up that esaly?

"I vote to lynch Zsandmann

Pulling your posts is hard, you haven't said anything of substance yet. I just get an overall sense that you're not probing for scum at all. You're throwing other peoples arguments out there and making it look like you're helping the town, but you're really not.
It's easy to hide in a landslide, but you gotta give a reason. You were the 3rd vote, which is a strong vote on day 1 I might add.
It's a reason, but it's a go with the flow status quo reason.
Yes, Ag was leading most of the night, partly due to your vote (#3) on him.

Naw, you're scum. You'll just have to hit me tonight so I don't link you with her. It's a tough life."

A vote on a player that has no votes.... I can see you starting a train but it didn't work and you never switched to make your vote count. Zs is fairly trusted right now but why go against who the town was looking at when you knew you were the only one?

#427 by Zaffy
"Richs vote makes me wonder if you're on to something. If noodles is scum, then it looks like rich is trying to get her off the hook even though he's got such sound reasoning."

Why didn't you follow up on this? You keep naming off suspects but rarely follow up on anything.

#746 by Zaffy
"Jpap - voting behavior.
Lab - voting behavior
DD - for not voting Razz right now.
Michwol42795 - Post more!
Ice - Apparently clean now.
Dawg - Scum stacked against him.
ZSandman - cleared on voting behavior, mostly.
JB - Has had lots to say, I want to read it again, my gut says nice guy.
Razz - Scummy McScumscum
Zaffy - included for a complete list. Innocent!"

I can't understand why I got it for saying I thought people were innocent and you didn't. This may be OMGUSy but how can you be sure of so many people's roles? You have DD, Mich, JB and half of Zs on your list with me leading it..... Are you waiting for one of them to come back mafia so you can say "I knew it!" later on? Distanceing are we?

#800 by Zaffy
"I voted Jpap because I thought that he had trapped Ag.
I voted Zsand because I thought my tinfoil conspiracy was plausible enough to go with.
I voted Zsand again because I had no more information to go on. I didn't change my vote late in the day because it was a tie and I was in no position to break that tie.
I voted Razz today because I think she's scum because of her voting record.
I'll vote Mich tomorrow because of his voting record, unless new information comes up that clears him."

:bs: No more info?!?!

#810 by Zaffy
"Why razz and zaffy? Are there reasons for these choices?

I think it's because Razz has been made tonight, and will die and show mafia. so you have to saw her name.

You pick me, because I'm the next most lynchable survivor thus far, you guys need to lynch me tomorrow in order to keep the game going one more night so your hits can go through."

All I have to say here is that I am a guy!
After that I vote to lynch Zaffy.

PS: I did this by copying the posts over to a different document and then dragged it all back over so I wouldn't loose it so please excuse the fact that the quotes are not in those little boxes. Thank you!
 
^^Pardon the spelling errors I forgot to hit spell check before I moved it over.
 
Uhh, That post is really hard to follow...... I am so sorry about that. I'll fix it.
 
Uhh, That post is really hard to follow...... I am so sorry about that. I'll fix it.

Yeah, my words and yours aren't distinguished.

Not that it matters. You're scum and we all know it, no amount of convoluted post/quoting will change that.

Sorry for thinking you were a chick.
 
I went through and looked through Zaffy's posts..... Warning Long Post Ahead!!

#28 by Zaffy
I vote to lynch Dirtydawg10

As chosen by random.org number generator. It says you're scum, what do you say to that?

I found out yesterday that this site is blocked at work, I can't help but think Kash is somewhat responsible for that, so she's on my list too.

The rest of my list is equal between everyone else and the above.

Random...... Why even waste the time?

#109 by Zaffy
Is this the famous pap-trap(tm) that people (I think Kash in the last game or two) have referred to in the past?

Ask a vague question, get any answer, twist it into an accusation.

I retract my vote on dawg and vote to lynch jpap.

You've been grilling Ag for the last page about what's essentially a non-issue, you said so yourself.

.............

#204 by Zaffy
If ag comes up scum, then you're off the hook for now imo, if not then I'm gonna keep you on my short list.

I'd like some others input on it though. What do people think, did jpap trap ag? or was he just bush kicking? or was it something else?

I just don't understand why you spent so much time on this. Yes, he may have baited Ag but why did you drag this out so long?

#271 by Zaffy
My top suspects:

Jpap - I feel like he trapped Ag.
DD - I feel like she followed the crowd on Ag, and now on Jpap. That's not like her imo.
Mich - Imply the game isn't worth playing if you're not scum, and he's still playing.

So list is all people that weren't top suspects at the time and still aren't. I feel this may have been an attempt to hide behind players that weren't being looked at. Odd.......

#326 by Zaffy
I've seen enough from Pappythat I'll give him the benefit of the doubt for now. I'm gonna keep him on my short list though.

I don't want to vote Lab because I hate landslides, and everyone I suspect aside from Lab herself, and DD are voting on her; Jpap, noodles, Ice.

I don't like Ice's whole deal with begging for protection, if he's scum and the Dr. buys it, it's a guarantee that their hits will go off without a hitch. He's poking at everyone just a bit, which I like though.

Noodles, I suspect for a reason that I'm keeping to myself for right now, I'll see what happens there.

I don't understand this part. Why is it that you were so confident that Jpap was/is mafia and now he is just off the top of your list? Who replaced him?

#332 by Zaffy
I'm nearly certain there is at least 1, possibly more scum votes on Lab right now. They could be sacrificing a weak link? or just letting us lynch a townie?

Normally I agree, but I want to give it another day and see what happens tonight.

You didn't tell us why you suspected Noods....... Is it because she was/is on your team and you didn't want to give her up that esaly?

I vote to lynch Zsandmann

Pulling your posts is hard, you haven't said anything of substance yet. I just get an overall sense that you're not probing for scum at all. You're throwing other peoples arguments out there and making it look like you're helping the town, but you're really not.
It's easy to hide in a landslide, but you gotta give a reason. You were the 3rd vote, which is a strong vote on day 1 I might add.
It's a reason, but it's a go with the flow status quo reason.
Yes, Ag was leading most of the night, partly due to your vote (#3) on him.

Naw, you're scum. You'll just have to hit me tonight so I don't link you with her. It's a tough life.

A vote on a player that has no votes.... I can see you starting a train but it didn't work and you never switched to make your vote count. Zs is fairly trusted right now but why go against who the town was looking at when you knew you were the only one?

#427 by Zaffy
Richs vote makes me wonder if you're on to something. If noodles is scum, then it looks like rich is trying to get her off the hook even though he's got such sound reasoning.

Why didn't you follow up on this? You keep naming off suspects but rarely follow up on anything.

#746 by Zaffy
- voting behavior.
Lab - voting behavior
DD - for not voting Razz right now.
Michwol42795 - Post more!
Ice - Apparently clean now.
Dawg - Scum stacked against him.
ZSandman - cleared on voting behavior, mostly.
JB - Has had lots to say, I want to read it again, my gut says nice guy.
Razz - Scummy McScumscum
Zaffy - included for a complete list. Innocent!

I can't understand why I got it for saying I thought people were innocent and you didn't. This may be OMGUSy but how can you be sure of so many people's roles? You have DD, Mich, JB and half of Zs on your list with me leading it..... Are you waiting for one of them to come back mafia so you can say "I knew it!" later on? Distanceing are we?

#800 by Zaffy
I voted Jpap because I thought that he had trapped Ag.
I voted Zsand because I thought my tinfoil conspiracy was plausible enough to go with.
I voted Zsand again because I had no more information to go on. I didn't change my vote late in the day because it was a tie and I was in no position to break that tie.
I voted Razz today because I think she's scum because of her voting record.
I'll vote Mich tomorrow because of his voting record, unless new information comes up that clears him.

:bs: No more info?!?!

#810 by Zaffy
Why razz and zaffy? Are there reasons for these choices?

I think it's because Razz has been made tonight, and will die and show mafia. so you have to saw her name.

You pick me, because I'm the next most lynchable survivor thus far, you guys need to lynch me tomorrow in order to keep the game going one more night so your hits can go through.

All I have to say here is that I am a guy!
After that I vote to lynch Zaffy.

PS: I did this by copying the posts over to a different document and then dragged it all back over so I wouldn't loose it so please excuse the fact that the quotes are not in those little boxes. Thank you!

There I think I fixed it!
 
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