HELP!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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I bet you're right, sorry...scratch the P. crabro guess! This fish definitely doesn't have the shape of a cichlid, even an obese one. Here's a pic of a Banded Leporinus, big like yours: http://zenandjuice.com/images/Leporinus_fasciatus.jpg
Ducatgirl, you probably already know that it's not a good idea to buy fish without knowing what they are...!
Ducatgirl, you probably already know that it's not a good idea to buy fish without knowing what they are...!
Thanks everyone.
I will move it, or should I move the mean fish?
There is also a catfish in there. and there was a smaller silversaub, which I moved.
I couldnt remember the name. I looked up banded fish..and well you know.
Yeah it doesnt look too good.
It just improved so much, but i'm not sure what to do.
I have to see a vet for antibiotics.
So its some kind of disease, and not because it was in a bucket too long?
Treating it with bactonex help? or is it suffering?
I will move it, or should I move the mean fish?
There is also a catfish in there. and there was a smaller silversaub, which I moved.
I couldnt remember the name. I looked up banded fish..and well you know.
Yeah it doesnt look too good.
It just improved so much, but i'm not sure what to do.
I have to see a vet for antibiotics.
So its some kind of disease, and not because it was in a bucket too long?
Treating it with bactonex help? or is it suffering?
I would treat this fish in a hospital tank by itself. I bet you have tea tree oil (Melafix) since Melaleuca is native to Australia. You can use that perhaps.
It looks to me like it has something like finrot on its mouth, which is caused by bacteria...but maybe it's just banged up. The popeye is for sure though. What about Epsom salts, do you have those handy? (Magnesium sulfate)
You can treat with both those things together, and definitely have a large airstone or a powerhead in the hospital tank. What size is your hospital tank? I don't want to make suggestions on dosing without knowing what kind of tank this would be.
It looks to me like it has something like finrot on its mouth, which is caused by bacteria...but maybe it's just banged up. The popeye is for sure though. What about Epsom salts, do you have those handy? (Magnesium sulfate)
You can treat with both those things together, and definitely have a large airstone or a powerhead in the hospital tank. What size is your hospital tank? I don't want to make suggestions on dosing without knowing what kind of tank this would be.
Ok well, this is a pretty small tank to treat a fish this large in. If you had a plastic bin that was larger and held water, I would use that instead. Plastic bins can have heaters and filters in them just as well as aquariums, the only drawback is you can't see the fish. But a sick fish actually prefers to be out of scrutiny, in dim light.
If the fish is swimming around and not just laying listlessly as in your pic, it's worth trying to get him better. If he eats there's a good chance he'll come around.
I would try the Bactonex (not familiar with this med so you'll have to follow the mfg directions on dosing) and also the Epsom salt and tea tree oil. Epsom salt at about 1 teaspoon per 5 gallons, dissolve it in warm water first. Melafix recommends 1 teaspoon per 10 gallons. Oh, and we're talking about US gallons here.
If the fish is swimming around and not just laying listlessly as in your pic, it's worth trying to get him better. If he eats there's a good chance he'll come around.
I would try the Bactonex (not familiar with this med so you'll have to follow the mfg directions on dosing) and also the Epsom salt and tea tree oil. Epsom salt at about 1 teaspoon per 5 gallons, dissolve it in warm water first. Melafix recommends 1 teaspoon per 10 gallons. Oh, and we're talking about US gallons here.
Poor guy. Make sure the water stays pristine, pure and no ammonia traces. An airstone would be helpful, to make him more comfortable. His hospital tank needs filtration, no carbon, but good aeration, and the temp needs to be stable.
I would guess keep his temp at 75degrees F (not sure of celsius conversion) because bacteria really love warmer temps, and if there is a bacterial infection, with the Melafix (Tea Tree Oil) and pristine water condtions, he may just pull through.
I would change water every day, then right after the water change add the dose of Melafix and the other antibacterial/antibiotic med you mentioned. Feed very lightly to help keep ammonia down. Quiet room and low light if possible. Something in there to hide in or under might help him feel more safe, but not vital.
Certainly, get him out of the main tank and away from others who will pick on him unmercifully. I hope he feels better. I've seen worse looking that did recover. Fish have amazing recuperative powers if given ideal water conditions.
Best wishes on his recovery.
I would guess keep his temp at 75degrees F (not sure of celsius conversion) because bacteria really love warmer temps, and if there is a bacterial infection, with the Melafix (Tea Tree Oil) and pristine water condtions, he may just pull through.
I would change water every day, then right after the water change add the dose of Melafix and the other antibacterial/antibiotic med you mentioned. Feed very lightly to help keep ammonia down. Quiet room and low light if possible. Something in there to hide in or under might help him feel more safe, but not vital.
Certainly, get him out of the main tank and away from others who will pick on him unmercifully. I hope he feels better. I've seen worse looking that did recover. Fish have amazing recuperative powers if given ideal water conditions.
Best wishes on his recovery.
Ok have dosed the tank, but hes not looking good, another changed tank might have been too much.
I bought tanks a few weeks ago, and the fish came with them- really only wanted tanks.
I dont have enough experience for large fish like these. Will probably sell the silver saums 8" goldsaums and (Chipokae?)
Keep the catfishes.
I dont like aggressive fish, and these others are gonna need more glass than my house will contain.
Thanks so much for your advice, I dont know what i'd do without you guys. I was a bit panicked. thank you.
Will see what happened in the morning the fate of the Banded Leporinus.
I bought tanks a few weeks ago, and the fish came with them- really only wanted tanks.
I dont have enough experience for large fish like these. Will probably sell the silver saums 8" goldsaums and (Chipokae?)
Keep the catfishes.
I dont like aggressive fish, and these others are gonna need more glass than my house will contain.
Thanks so much for your advice, I dont know what i'd do without you guys. I was a bit panicked. thank you.
Will see what happened in the morning the fate of the Banded Leporinus.
Yep, that stocking list is all over the place. Sorry, I confused your fish with M. auratus - you're right it's Melanochromis chipokae....a similar fish:
http://www.gcca.net/fom/Melanochromis_chipokae.htm
I'm glad you are rehoming the green terrors and one lone Malawi cichlid. To tell you the truth, a Banded Leporinus is also not going to make an ideal inhabitant if it lives. These are very aggressive fish and super jumpers. (Sorry, that's something to consider if you do decide to medicate in something other than an aquarium...although this fella doesn't look like he's going to be too jumpy.) They can also get a foot long. Depending on your catfish it might be ok with them, but if your 150 liter tank is your biggest aquarium, that's going to be pushing it.
If you are interested in cichlids, I would recommend kribensis to go with your current fish. A smallish cichlid with lovely colors and not too aggressive. If you have Corydoras catfish, it probably wouldn't work to house them together since they tend to nip these as they amble into their territory. But I've had great luck keeping them in a 4 foot tank with tetras.
http://www.gcca.net/fom/Melanochromis_chipokae.htm
I'm glad you are rehoming the green terrors and one lone Malawi cichlid. To tell you the truth, a Banded Leporinus is also not going to make an ideal inhabitant if it lives. These are very aggressive fish and super jumpers. (Sorry, that's something to consider if you do decide to medicate in something other than an aquarium...although this fella doesn't look like he's going to be too jumpy.) They can also get a foot long. Depending on your catfish it might be ok with them, but if your 150 liter tank is your biggest aquarium, that's going to be pushing it.
If you are interested in cichlids, I would recommend kribensis to go with your current fish. A smallish cichlid with lovely colors and not too aggressive. If you have Corydoras catfish, it probably wouldn't work to house them together since they tend to nip these as they amble into their territory. But I've had great luck keeping them in a 4 foot tank with tetras.
