Mafia #64 ? Cabin Fever - The Play

[Dangerdoll]

We have no evidence of anything and we are banishing someone. So I am attempting to jack up the votes on one person so that it would be less likely for me to be banished.

did you really say this???

 

[Zaffy]

So then why weren't you worried about the train on FF? Is it still a train now that it is Lab 4 and FF 3?

So let me ask this then. You saw nothing scummy about Lab coming out and giving reasons left and right why she couldn't be an accomplice?

So you're worried the train are mostly innocents lynching an innocent and the scum can vote on other players? You being a lone vote on me could be construed as you doing exactly what you said scum would do. DD on Kash as a lone vote could be construed as the same thing.

Lab really had me wanting to vote her but I'm more concerned with you and DD. Dawg gave me a sensible answer so not so concerned with him right now. I can revist him if you and DD show as evil.

I'm off all day tomorrow since its my Bday so I'm in no rush to vote. But you and DD are tops on my list.

Show me where I said I wasn't worried about a train on FF. I'd like to see it.

The reasons she gave made logical sense to me, her first 2 reasons were stupid, but the 3rd she gave (in the same post) made sense to me. If I were on vacation I wouldn't have the mafia sign up as a top priority either. I don't think what she did was scummy. I don't rule her out as possible scum.

How many games of mafia have you played? How many times has this NOT happened?

Construe away, please. Find something real to talk about. Semantics about what is or isn't a train, and why or why not someone should say they can or can't be scum is superficial at best.

Happy Birthday!

 

[Lab_Rat]

We have no evidence of anything and we are banishing someone. So I am attempting to jack up the votes on one person so that it would be less likely for me to be banished.

Seriously??? That's just plain lame. So you don't care if you vote to banish an innocent. Did your Madman instruct you to vote for me? Is that the reason for the drive by banishing? Maybe they forgot to tell you it's best to post a reason when voting for someone. Makes me think you're scum.

 

[texasguy]

Whoo yeah! bring on the hate!

 

[Kashta]

You're banishing an innocent, plain and simple. I brought up those points against myself because I'm being honest. See, this is why I'm not very good at being innocent. But what I've said is the truth. I know you think I'm mentally impaired, but do you really think I'm that impaired that I'd volunteer to be evil when I've made it clear I love to be evil? That would put my IQ below 70.

First off, Lab Rat, I'm not banishing anyone... lol. For that to happen it needs a majority of townsfolk voting in agreement with each other. What I did was notice something scummy and I placed my vote accordingly. That's what this game is about. It was also just a single vote on you and it was made early enough on the first day that my vote would most likely have changed to somebody else between then and nightfall. Now, based on your (over)reaction, it just might stay on you from here on.

Not only did you get yourself caught up in fairly generic speculation over who might volunteer for an evil role... you got defensive about it right off the bat -- before anyone else had a chance to even accuse you or imply you might be suspect. Then, you listed all these creative "reasons" why you couldn't possibly be evil... but those statements don't wash. I believe you got real worried over tripping yourself up as you've done and you overreacted to the attention you drew upon yourself. All of these factors indicate scummy behavior.

The truth is it would have been very simple for you to phone in a single PM to Pappy while hanging around with your pals all day/evening long at a parade. Given the enthusiasm you give this game, I find that believable. It's not a complicated task, you've confirmed already that you have friends with cell phones who get excellent signal strength in NO (even if your phone signal crapped out), and you don't even have to be sober to send that message asking to be made an accomplice. That takes, what... maybe five minutes? It's clearly not as "impossible" as you try making this sound.

Your reaction to the votes you got also make you seem very suspicious, IMO, which only reinforces the scummy perception I have in your case.... the way you profess your innocence repeatedly (not a convincing thing to do)... the way you continue going on about this.... coming up with more reasons and justification... and so on.

Interesting, you're following Kash's vote yet again...deja vu...only this time you're following to vote out an innocent. Not wise if you're pro-innocent...

Here in your next post, Lab, you're doing the same thing. In response to my (single) vote, you claim I'm "banishing an innocent." Wizard voted you too around the same time as me and you claim he's following to "vote out an innocent." It was a scummy thing to say once and you've done it twice there, back to back. (Mafia types do this quite often... innocent players, not so much.)

So you're implying I would travel all the way to NO for Mardi Gras to use my friends phones that had spotty service to make sure I could get that pm that was sent sometime last night so I could pm jpap to be evil? :screwy: Wizard, that makes zero sense. At the time the PMs were sent out I'm pretty sure I was at the Bacchus parade which lasted forever and a day (though times are a bit hazy). :headbang2:

Here is your response to Wizard, but (again), you're being real defensive about this. I don't believe anyone suggested you set out to go to Mardi Gras for the sole purpose of setting up an alibi from where you could (still) easily check your messages and PM a quick reply ........ then come back to the mafia game later to pretend it wasn't possible. Realistically, for you to have done that anyway after getting your PM wouldn't need pre-planning or any forethought. It also wouldn't interfere with your fun or even be difficult for you to accomplish in between your standing around in a crowd, getting something to eat or drink while you were there, finding somewhere you could use a restroom, or whatever else happened with you and your friends in attendance.

I am eager to defend myself because I want to help the innocents and do not want to see an innocent (myself) lynched. Innocent people get defensive when accused...

I am being honest with where I was and my service. You want to ask my IRL friends? I have photos to prove where I was.

I am not great on day 1 when I have a non-communicating role. I tend to get a bit spastic and then everyone wants to vote for me. Happens when I'm innocent. Get past day 1 and I can settle down and do decently. It's an aspect of the game I'm working on improving, obviously needs more improvement...it's not a contradiction, I consciously decided when jpap announced the format that I would not request to be evil, even though that is my preference. Then it turned out that decision didn't matter because of the timing of when the roles were sent out/when people had to PM jpap to be evil, since I was preoccupied at that time.

Can you reword that to something that makes sense?



That doesn't make any sense, is it just because they're voting to banish you? Is that a total OMGUS list, plus me added in because Kash and Wiz are voting for me?


At this point, I think speculating on who is evil, and watching peoples reactions to the speculations is all we have to go on. It's more than we typically have on day 1. I would doubt no one asked to be evil, but I know not everyone asked to be evil. I, for one, did not ask to be evil.


I would think you'd jump at the opportunity to be on a communicating team. Maybe that's why you don't have quite as many posts as the last game at this point in time. Did you team tell you to calm down?


Not sure I understand this...


I kinda think that too with his post I quoted above.


I agree it's way to early to have a legit list, other than who you think may have asked to be evil. I named the two I thought would ask: Razz and FF. Razz because after jpap said you could PM him to be evil in invisible mode it was followed by Razz asking how to become invisible. Plus Razz has said before how he liked the communicating evil role. With those two occurrences it makes sense to me Razz would have PMed jpap to be evil. As I said above, I think FF would have jumped at the opportunity to be on a communicating team. If he didn't, he should have since they could have helped him learn to play the game better.

Those were my two who I suspected the most. Obviously, anyone could have too, there is not one person that I would say would absolutely not PM to be evil if given the innocent role. But it's more doubtful than those two. I understand why people would think I would volunteer to be evil, and it did cross my mind at first when the format was announced. I then realized it was way too obvious since I've said several times how I love communicating roles. Not to mention, I ended up being unavailable to PM after role announcal so my decision to not PM was a moot point.


I don't agree with that. I think I have pretty good reason for suspecting Razz and FF. I suspect Razz a little more than FF


I can't see anything in your posts saying why I am the Madman and JL and Annie are my accomplices. I see OMGUS against them, and you joining the bandwagon on me. I'm no Madman, nor am I an accomplice.

Since Lab's text is colored already, I just made some lines larger. To those statements.... Good grief, Lab Rat. Here you claim innocent, innocent, and innocent again. Then you want to drag in IRL friends to defend you too? Lordy!! And then you want to produce photographic evidence? This post is about the most ridiculous thing I've seen you do in any game.

You got defensive when nobody was pointing at you... now you're being even MORE defensive because some of us have pointed out that you're being defensive. You know, when you find yourself waist-deep in a hole that you've dug for yourself.. that's usually a good time for you to stop digging.

FF, what you have said is all mixed with my writing and it's a hot mess. Please do not to that.

You're not posting as spastically as last time. It's why I think your team may have told you to slow down.

I have not voted yet, how can you possibly say I am voting for you. Though you give me good enough reason for a day 1 vote.

What is no contest? This is only the first day of game play, nothing is set in stone voting wise. If I had to vote right now, I'd likely vote for Razz or you.

Lab Rat.. I see in this post you were thinking of voting for Razz. But why? Prior to this, I don't believe Razz even posted anything yet. So that means you're willing to vote Razz purely on speculation alone? How is that better than those already voting you, not only over speculation, but also for defensive posts, flimsy excuses, professing innocence, etc... ???

 

[IceH2O]

Show me where I said I wasn't worried about a train on FF. I'd like to see it.

The reasons she gave made logical sense to me, her first 2 reasons were stupid, but the 3rd she gave (in the same post) made sense to me. If I were on vacation I wouldn't have the mafia sign up as a top priority either. I don't think what she did was scummy. I don't rule her out as possible scum.

How many games of mafia have you played? How many times has this NOT happened?

Construe away, please. Find something real to talk about. Semantics about what is or isn't a train, and why or why not someone should say they can or can't be scum is superficial at best.

Happy Birthday!

You mentioned the train on Lab,you didn't mention the train on FF, this leads me to believe you weren't worried about a train on FF since FF wasn't mentioned. You didn't say I don't like these trains,you said train on Lab.


Its not that her reasons weren't good or logical its that she posted them for no real reason except to say Darn innocent again.

Most trains are innocent on innocent except in cases when we know such and such is mafia. You guys mentioning it on Day 1 though throws up red flags that you know its a train on an innocent. It was early on Day 1, you're either trying to save Lab or position yourself to be able to say I knew she was innocent.


I vote to banish Zaffy


Call it OMGUS if you wish but your case against me is much weaker then what I feel I have against you.
If I had to choose between FF and Lab I'd probably vote Lab for the defensiveness before there was even any attention called to them.

 

[Fishfriend1]

Sounds like you've solved the case Sherlock.



Why are you hinting at being the Bartender??? Thats scummy IMO :nono:



Good grief. This post made my eyes puke.



Really? Care to explain why?

No im not hinting on bartender, i just saw that part of the rules, and was worried that i missed something...
PS. you dont need to call people names, these are just my ideas, i make no garentee (other then my thoughts) that they are correct.

 

[Zaffy]

You mentioned the train on Lab,you didn't mention the train on FF, this leads me to believe you weren't worried about a train on FF since FF wasn't mentioned. You didn't say I don't like these trains,you said train on Lab.


Its not that her reasons weren't good or logical its that she posted them for no real reason except to say Darn innocent again.

Most trains are innocent on innocent except in cases when we know such and such is mafia. You guys mentioning it on Day 1 though throws up red flags that you know its a train on an innocent. It was early on Day 1, you're either trying to save Lab or position yourself to be able to say I knew she was innocent.


I vote to banish Zaffy


Call it OMGUS if you wish but your case against me is much weaker then what I feel I have against you.
If I had to choose between FF and Lab I'd probably vote Lab for the defensiveness before there was even any attention called to them.

Sweet, go ahead and post it.

 

[Kashta]

hmmm.... Kash, throwing out accusations already? I wasn't skimming THIS thread.... but I do see you are back to posting a bunch of crap to make your posts seem important.

I vote to banish Kash <-- part OMGUS, part gut

Not a factual statement there, DD. If you knew nothing about innocents being able to volunteer as accomplices, then yes you did skim -- both the signup thread (where Pappy posted about this) and this thread (see the rules/roles in Post #1).

It's actually rather interesting you would vote me for saying you skimmed. That's hardly a secret in your case, DD.. lmao. In fact, I've never seen a mafia game yet that you've played where you didn't skim your way through the rules and the posts.... and other players talk about that and joke about that all the time. I didn't even vote you for it, say it meant you were scummy, or even "call you out" over it. Yet, you felt strongly enough about this to actually vote me?

In your case, DD, skimming isn't actually a scum-tell... you do it as often when you're innocent as you do when you're evil. That's why I thought it was funny... there was DD being DD. However... the interesting part of this is this: I don't remember you voting everyone else who's said you were skimming before. Maybe I hit a nerve or "something" with you this time. DD ... making a big deal out of something that's very commonplace in these games.

no, I never said Kash voted for me, but it doesn't mean I did think her post sucked....

Okay.. so it sucks that I called you a skimmer. Be that as it may I still don't see the big deal, DD. Who else in these games hasn't called you skimmer before? Which games have you played in the past where you weren't skimming? Why is this such a huge arse issue with you in this game, DD?

Traditionaly, OMGUS is given when a player votes for someone who has voted for them. If Lab voted Kash, that would be OMGUS.

Maybe if you read some of the games you played in the past you would know this. :flamed:

:rofl:

clever and thanks for the lesson, JL... I know what it "traditionally" means but "technically" it stands for the same thing. I fully meant to post it as that because for Kash, her post calling me out, plainly sucked... with an OMG before it...

what's wrong... am I on to something?

DD I don't actually feel I "called" you out or anything of the sort. I mentioned you skimmed... then I joked about it. That's all there was to it.

Seems more to me in this case that you wanted to coast along through this game going unnoticed the whole time. And the first time someone mentioned your name (without even leaning you as a suspect for anything), you've just overreacted to that and decided to vote the person for it.

well, I considered there was a train forming because there was starting to be one, plain and simple. Thinking more about it though, I am having a problem agreeing with the so called evidence everyone has assumed on Lab... if she winds up MM or the accomplice, I know this will pretty much seal my coffin but I hjust don't have a strong feeling about her.. What I do find a bit convincing though is the fact that FF is all over the place and it would seem that he would definitely be one to PM pap for a mafia role. Do I think Lab would? Maybe, but I feel more strongly that FF would.

As mu h as I don't like that here we are at Day 1 and only 2 people have been single out thus far, which is pretty much keeping the heat off of anyone else, I will go with the droves for now. I revoke my vote to lyynch Kash and vote to banish FF

Honestly, DD... even without understanding why you'd vote me for just calling you a skimmer, I would have felt better had you stayed put. Even with that. For you to switch votes now for the simple reason that you'd rather go along with the flow... is rather alarming. That isn't usually your style, DD.

 

[Fishfriend1]

We have no evidence of anything and we are banishing someone. So I am attempting to jack up the votes on one person so that it would be less likely for me to be banished.

:rofl:
Selfish, scummy, makes me want to vote for him. Hey LR, wanna make a truce till he get banished? Just Kidding BTW.

well, I considered there was a train forming because there was starting to be one, plain and simple. Thinking more about it though, I am having a problem agreeing with the so called evidence everyone has assumed on Lab... if she winds up MM or the accomplice, I know this will pretty much seal my coffin but I hjust don't have a strong feeling about her.. What I do find a bit convincing though is the fact that FF is all over the place and it would seem that he would definitely be one to PM pap for a mafia role. Do I think Lab would? Maybe, but I feel more strongly that FF would.

As mu h as I don't like that here we are at Day 1 and only 2 people have been single out thus far, which is pretty much keeping the heat off of anyone else, I will go with the droves for now. I revoke my vote to lyynch Kash and vote to banish FF

Why does everyone seem to think i would want to be evil? Sheesh.

Seriously??? That's just plain lame. So you don't care if you vote to banish an innocent. Did your Madman instruct you to vote for me? Is that the reason for the drive by banishing? Maybe they forgot to tell you it's best to post a reason when voting for someone. Makes me think you're scum.

:iagree: