Mafia 66: Farmers versus the Railroad - the play

lots of people changing their minds...
 
I am still in the air here. I would vote for Wiz, Annie or dag at this pont. I am glad I should be home this evening so need to rush my vote.

I will note vote LR, Coler or JB, unless one of them does something completely anti-farmer.

I guess that sums up where I stand right now,
 
jbradt said:
How about this, Wiz... I've quoted all the posts involved because I don't want anyone to be able to say I've twisted words. This is the contents of post #295 by the Wiz. The posts by Labby and Dawg are the ones Wiz is responding to. I've removed some spaces in the quoted texts just to save space here.





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Wiz. You've been pretty absent recently, but I'm going to expect an answer to this. You seem to state here pretty clearly that you are suspecting Labby based on an assumption you are making. :footinmouth: Is that not the case? If that's so, then you're free to place your vote any way you like; but don't expect me to take anything you say with less than a pound of salt. I still find it disturbing that you seem to be so closed minded all game. That's not what I've come to expect from you. This post was on page 30, and you've refused to even humor any other discussion. That is not a helpful stance IMO.

Unless I'm mistaken, the vote in question was Wiz's vote on DD placed on night 1. Now at the end of that night, I had pretty little doubt that Kash was the IW and Noods would turn up scum. I find it hard to believe that you didn't figure this out too, Wiz. You still seem pretty sure that DD was scum with nothing more to go on than her day 1 posting. You say here that you were "sure" (that's the word you used... don't even go there) DD was scum. You've still never given specifics or pulled even 1 post of hers to support this stand. How can you say you were sure?

This is the perfect example of you (Wiz) not even acknowledging any ideas other than your agenda. And that's what this feels like to me, Wiz. You are trying to push an agenda. And that agenda ain't lynching RRers.

How about that, Wiz? Is that "extremely scummy" enough for you? You ready to vote for yourself yet? You can always just end this and admit it.

I'm willing to vote any of the three I've mentioned, But I still really like the Wiz as a candidate.

Tomorrow's my day off, so I'll spend a lot of it sleeping. I should be around long before nightfall though.
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JB, I will answer. You seem to take great pleasure in harping that I have been absent. I don't post and disappear, I post and go to work.

My style hasn't changed, I have been this way every game.

When I get home it takes a few hours to read all the posts that have been made during the day and to find what happened with the lynch.

I also posted why I would not be on this past weekend in advance.


the wizard said:
I have my daughter this weekend so I doubt I will be back before night fall.
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If having a job and other outside commitments is scummy, then lynch me.

IMO, making an issue of this the way you have been trying to do is scummy.

Yes scummy enough for me to change my vote.

I retract my vote on LR

I vote to lynch JB
 
so, wiz, basically your pissed that JB is pointing out that you haven't been here alot and have voted for him because of that? Way to wast a vote.
 
oh, and JB, he does have a point. Wiz, like all of us, has a life outside of mafia and you cant call him on that, not unless its excessive.
 
the wizard said:

JB, I will answer. You seem to take great pleasure in harping that I have been absent. I don't post and disappear, I post and go to work.

My style hasn't changed, I have been this way every game.

When I get home it takes a few hours to read all the posts that have been made during the day and to find what happened with the lynch.

I also posted why I would not be on this past weekend in advance.




If having a job and other outside commitments is scummy, then lynch me.

IMO, making an issue of this the way you have been trying to do is scummy.

Yes scummy enough for me to change my vote.

I retract my vote on LR

I vote to lynch JB
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Wow, Wiz; that's quite the strong reaction. First, let me say if I've offended you, I apologize. It was never the intent. It's just a game. Second... you're totally right. I had forgotten that you posted you would have your daughter this weekend. I apologize for that too. That being said...

I can't help but notice that out of everything that's said in my post, that is the one sentence you chose to respond to. Then you get all OMGUSY without even letting me reply first. I get that you post in spurts. I've seen that before and know it to be your style. I also understand having a strange work schedule, I have one to as you'll see from the timestamp on most of my posts. What I'm not used to from you, Wiz; and what leads me to believe you're scum is your stubborness and refusal to look at anything other than your own thoughts. Then the getting dramatic and omgusy doesn't really help.
 
maybe their argument was staged?
 
These are the posts ans highlighted portions that are beginning to worry me.

Coler said:
You don't need me to say that this is a good question.

I have Lab Rat high up as a candidate primarily for the not voting for Noods strategy yesterday. As per my review though, on my view of the game, if it is any way accurate, she was innocent on D1 and I would have a problem with any theory that says she was scummy on D1.

I do tend to like Dag as well however and if I have more time that's whose posts I propose looking at next.
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I agree that she looked innocent on day 1 but why did you just come to that conclusion on day 3?

Lab_Rat said:
I am saying that Noods voting to lynch you (so voting with Kash, with me, the two people calling her scum) would have discredited both Kash's and my ascertains that she was scum. Before Kash's role was revealed, no one but Dawg and Dag believed either of us from what I can tell. Now which one of us (Kash or I) would have been lynched the next night, I do not know, but I'd bet $100 that one of us would have if you'd shown innocent. It would have bought Noods some breathing room, since it would not have been revealed that Kash had inside information about a RRO (Noods) after night 1.

About your comments with me being turned...where have I wavered? What makes you think I was turned? I've thought you scummy since day 1, and I still think you're scummy. I could see voting for your teammate Annie at this point since I'm pretty sure he's the one who was turned night 1.
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^Lab still seeing Coler as scum.

Coler said:
If you were turned, and I am presently short of placing a vote, it was not least because your views suited the scum team and you could continue to play without making any adjustments.

I guess the scummiest thing about you in my eyes remains however the coin-toss strategy v voting for Noods.



Meh, detail aside as to what an OMGUS is, even when you say it out loud 'N[I]oodles had the smallest bit of attention and you stepped up to protect he[/I]r' to me it shows how weak it is, to think that I would do that, and how you basically do not have anything on me as showing scum except my D1 vote for Kashta.
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^Coler still seeing LR as scum.

Coler said:
My main issue is that my favourite candidates at the moment Lab Rat, are yourself and Dag although I tend to lean it towards Dag because I am reasonably sure you at least started innocent, and you being the turn is slightly hunchy.

Annie/Wiz don't excite me to the same extent at this point.
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Again Coler says LR started innocent...and calling his thoughts on her being scum "hunchy"

Lab_Rat said:
So Annies sudden behavior change doesn't strike you as odd then?
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I would like to know about your sudden behavior change, LR.

Lab_Rat said:
I wouldn't put it past Annie to frame Coler like that. I've gone hard against Coler from day 1, then I realized I needed to take a step back and look at the big picture.

Right now I'm not happy with where my vote is. I retract my vote on Coler.
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Then LR retracts her vote on Coler. To me that is very scary and I'm beginning to think LR may have been the turn last night. I really need some explanation from you LR. I just can't make sense of it. I'm not going to jump to any conclusions just yet but you need to tell me why I'm wrong.

To Coler, I have seen plenty of scummy things from you and posts from Noods that point to you being scum. What I can't find is anything from you that points to you being an innocent. Yes you voted for Noods but she was out in the open scum and a logical place to put a vote to appear innocent if you are scum. Can you show me anything in your posts over the last several days? Also do you think it is pro-town to not have placed a vote by now? I know your thoughts but you have not backed it up with a vote yet.

It appears from my review that Coler and LR both have each other as suspects but have dropped each other down a notch on the list. Does anyone else see this as being an issue?
 
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