Mafia #67 - 50/50 -- The Play

And you pretty effectively muzzled him last game, JB. I wouldn't doubt he's non-communicating mafia. He's dying to be on a communicating team, why else would he ask the scum team to investigate him?
 
I don't like voting early without giving it enough thought. Now that I've thought about it more I feel fine with voting. Everyone in this game bears watching...
Even me?

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well, ima go read now. or is it play civ 3...? or war 3...? im so confused right now...

Here's a tip, FF.... when you get confused, stop posting. That way we won't have to read the nonsense (if it is nonsense and not play acting).

Under the Kashta quote it should have said:

This almost looks like mafia giving mafia advice.

Almost? Okay, perhaps it does on the surface. But if you think it through, your suggestion doesn't make sense. Also...if we're both mafia together and communicating (otherwise I wouldn't know it yet)... I'm fairly sure I'd kill him off early. I suspect JB has a lot more patience dealing with him as a teammate than I would have. Besides, in that scenario we'd have a communicating board I could use to ask him to STFU directly. Thus, no need to post that here.

Even if we're innocent communicating, I'd still be tempted to kill him off because his nonsense posts are distracting. I agree with Mad (and those already voting him)........ FF is being unhelpful.

If we're non-communicating good and non-communicating evil...then I wouldn't know he's even a teammate. Same is true if one of us is communicating and the other is non-communicating (either being town or scum).

Think that covers each of the options available.

Ice, how exactly does my comment almost seem like mafia advising mafia? I'm not seeing your logic there.

another good observation, Ice! It sure does look that way.

DD, same question for you...

How exactly does my comment almost seem like mafia advising mafia? I'm not seeing your logic there (either).

That said, I also believe FF is the safest Day 1 vote in town if you're someone looking to vote someone for a defensible reason AND not worry too much that your vote will be held against you later on if he flips innocent.
 
I agree with Mad (and those already voting him)........ FF is being unhelpful.

FF is usually unhelpful, regardless of alignment... but I think that he may have really stepped in something here, though. Based on what he's said, and how he's reacted, I think there's a better than okay chance that he's scum.
 
Almost? Okay, perhaps it does on the surface. But if you think it through, your suggestion doesn't make sense. Also...if we're both mafia together and communicating (otherwise I wouldn't know it yet)... I'm fairly sure I'd kill him off early. I suspect JB has a lot more patience dealing with him as a teammate than I would have. Besides, in that scenario we'd have a communicating board I could use to ask him to STFU directly. Thus, no need to post that here.

Even if we're innocent communicating, I'd still be tempted to kill him off because his nonsense posts are distracting. I agree with Mad (and those already voting him)........ FF is being unhelpful.

If we're non-communicating good and non-communicating evil...then I wouldn't know he's even a teammate. Same is true if one of us is communicating and the other is non-communicating (either being town or scum).

Think that covers each of the options available.

Ice, how exactly does my comment almost seem like mafia advising mafia? I'm not seeing your logic there.



DD, same question for you...

How exactly does my comment almost seem like mafia advising mafia? I'm not seeing your logic there (either).

That said, I also believe FF is the safest Day 1 vote in town if you're someone looking to vote someone for a defensible reason AND not worry too much that your vote will be held against you later on if he flips innocent.
well Kash... I don't know (don't recall if I was ever on a team with him or not but I don't recall it) how FF is when he is conversating with his cronies in a mafia chat but I would assume that if he is as off the wall here, why wouldnt he be on another board... and that being said, I don't see him as paying so much attention there either and what not a better way to use as a defense than to suggest that you posted it here because if you were on a communicating mafia team with him, you would have just said it in the room?

OR, since it is kinda obvious with his posts that he is likely mafia, whther he is communicating or you are while you or him are not, you could have put that out there to either clue to him that you are non communicating, or are and that you know who he is... I would think though that he is communicating and you are clueing him in so that he can suggest to his team that you would be a good one to investigate.
 
LOL.. DD just made my head hurt almost as much as FF does. lmao. I see those points, I guess. But isn't it also possible I could just as easily vote the kid now merely for distancing purposes later? That would accomplish the exact same thing. I mean... I guess if you try hard enough you can really make anything sound scummy if you want to.

Be that as it may, I'm not disagreeing with those saying he seems to have screwed up and he wasn't able to get himself out of that bind. It's just he could be posting without thinking as he does all the time and we're jumping on him rather fast this time. Probably because he was scum last time, I suppose.

For that matter, I'm considering him for my vote too. He's just such an easy vote to place that I'm hoping it's not a knee-jerk reaction. I'm also waiting to see what else develops this day. And whether we vote him out or not, I'm hopeful we keep looking for other suspects as well.
 
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