Mafia #67 - 50/50 -- The Play

[Lab_Rat]

I think the post you quoted explains it.

You guys act like everything said is 100% fact. Its a thought thats possible. Isn't that what we're supposed to do, put out possibilities? Would you rather we all just vote and sit back and say nothing?

These games are getting to be damned if you do damned if you don't. The only thing that saves anyone is just placing a vote then running off to hide.

Obviously not everything is 100% fact, half the people playing are scum. I like a lot of possibilities, and am usually the one throwing them out there myself. But from what I've seen from FF, he screwed up and the evidence against him is pretty blatant. With even numbers between town and scum, we can't afford to lose innocents so why lynch someone else when FF has been such obvious non-comm mafia. I do think he's lost since he can't communicate and we're seeing that. I do not think he would have asked scum to investigate him if he were innocent.

Not sure what you mean about the damned if you do damned if you don't...I'm not going to place a vote then go run and hide, I'm trying to help eradicate the town of scum. Placing a yellow bellied vote then hiding is just lame.

 

[johnlarson66]

What is that say, "You can't lead a dead horse to water"?

:crazy:

Some folks you just can't help, and I am unsure why I am even trying to help FF. I guess we just need to see what he is.

At this point I do not trust any of the ones pushing hard on case on FF. Maybe I will be eating these words tomorrrow. I find myself pushing hard to defend FF and there is nothing to defend. He has just as much chance of being mafia as the rest of the town (almost 50%). I hope he comes up mafia.

 

[johnlarson66]

I believe I've already asked how FF is playing any differently. Last game we got caught up in the Noods-Kash fiasco, and FF was largely ignored. That does not, however, mean he played differently.

So you think FF is playing the same as last time. I think his teamates kept him in check and he did not draw all the attention to himself. I do think he is posting a lot like he did in his first game, when he was non-communicating mafia, but he also played this way when he was non-communicating innocent.

I think he is not posting like last game and is posting more like he has in the past. I think much of it has been in response to the pressure that has been put on him, but much of that pressure is self induced.

Once again, FF has been the star of the game. I had hoped he would play better.

 

[dirtydawg10]

Wow! I had to go back and check my post...I thought I missed the first nightfall and we were already on day 2

Glad to see this game moving so quickly on a day 1.

Dawg, if you get one mafia hit and one innocent hit the same night... how will you determine which goes first and which goes second? Both teams could also hit the same person before they investigate enough to find opposing players. In that case, which team gets credit for the kill? ... meaning, they use up a hit while the other team gets (essentially) a freebie.

Both hits will go through at the same time as long as someone from each team is still alive. If there happens to be only one comm player on a team the first team to send their hit to me via PM will take precedence. If two teams hit the same player both hits will have been used. As far as credit for the hit it doesn't really matter. the team that loses a teammate will have lost either way.

 

[jpappy789]

So you think FF is playing the same as last time. I think his teamates kept him in check and he did not draw all the attention to himself. I do think he is posting a lot like he did in his first game, when he was non-communicating mafia, but he also played this way when he was non-communicating innocent.

I think he is not posting like last game and is posting more like he has in the past. I think much of it has been in response to the pressure that has been put on him, but much of that pressure is self induced.

Once again, FF has been the star of the game. I had hoped he would play better.

I'm not saying he is...I'm saying there is no rhyme or reason as to how FF posts no matter the role. I was wondering how you came to the conclusion that he is not posting like last game. The first reasoning you gave to me had to do with the town focusing on Noods and Kash last game, which didn't really answer the question as to how FF's posts are different than last game. Thats why I asked again.

 

[Fishfriend1]

Agreed, but we're dealing with FF here. He specifically asked the mafia to investigate him at first...I'm not going to assume he thought it through that both teams would.

And even if he did think that both teams would, and that the opposing team would then hit him, his whole reasoning behind why he wanted to be investigated is void. He would be hit, not lynched.

I missed the part about the hits, did not anyone had hits.

Hmmmm....being the 3rd vote has had a history of being the scummy one, however I find it alarming you have mentioned it, especially so early in the game.

I don't see any easy places to hide on the FF train. If he is innocent, he has made statements that are certainly contradictory to his actual role. If he is scumbag, I will trust noone that voted for him either, as his posts are almost all so slime covered that even the communicating scumbags must realize they will have to vote for him or risk exposing themselves. Some of them may have already .



Very non committal, but overall you are implying FF is not a good lynch candidate because he always posts scummy things, even when he was innocent. Is this a fair assessment of this post?



Turning up the heat a little here. You state you would expect FF to play conservatively if he had a scum role? Is this your basis for your seemingly increasing defence of FF? Because he isn't playing conservatively?



So far, you have tried to talk Jpap and Lab out of voting for FF. Correct me if this is a misrepresentation of your posts.



He got some attention. At first I paid no attention to the crazy things he was posting. In the end we (Coler, Wiz and I) decided Dag was the best candidate for the lynch, based on the fact that we believed Dags early attack on FF was a scumbag looking for an easy target, which FF often makes of himself. In the end, I believed FF was just a crazy townie that had made some scummy posts and Dag was an opportunistic scumbag trying to exploit him.

He has my full attention now, and so does anyone trying to rationalize not voting for him at this point.



Care to name a suspect list?

What do you think of JB's and JL's posts so far in relation to you? I think they are both scumbags, but that of course dependent upon you being a scumbag.

My vote isnt set in stone FF. If you find a better suspect, and build a case, I could be swayed. But the fact is its D1, there is an abscence of good information and you are the best (and only) option on the table I can see. If you are innocent, you better find me a better option. Good luck with that.

That being said I'm tempted to move my vote to one of the non existent players, like Noods or Rich for example. Maybe they only post when they see their names in bold? Seems a little unfair not to consider them for a lynchin' just because they haven't said diddly as of yet dontcha think?

FF maybe you should kick one of their doors in. They seem pretty scummy for having said nothing at all.

Yea, i always say "if they dont ring a scum bell then they should start ringing one" meaning that if they dont seem innocent and tjey dont seem scummy then they are going to be above someone who is openly good.

I ,knowing i am good, think that they prob are too.

I believe I've already asked how FF is playing any differently. Last game we got caught up in the Noods-Kash fiasco, and FF was largely ignored. That does not, however, mean he played differently.

Read last game again plz. I definitly posted less, and kept to myself (thanks team, for helpin me with that)
^referring to last games team, just so no one can manipulate this.

Obviously not everything is 100% fact, half the people playing are scum. I like a lot of possibilities, and am usually the one throwing them out there myself. But from what I've seen from FF, he screwed up and the evidence against him is pretty blatant. With even numbers between town and scum, we can't afford to lose innocents so why lynch someone else when FF has been such obvious non-comm mafia. I do think he's lost since he can't communicate and we're seeing that. I do not think he would have asked scum to investigate him if he were innocent.

Not sure what you mean about the damned if you do damned if you don't...I'm not going to place a vote then go run and hide, I'm trying to help eradicate the town of scum. Placing a yellow bellied vote then hiding is just lame.

Sure, scumball, and when i show NCI can i have a solom promise for everyone to lynch lab next?

Wow! I had to go back and check my post...I thought I missed the first nightfall and we were already on day 2

Glad to see this game moving so quickly on a day 1.



Both hits will go through at the same time as long as someone from each team is still alive. If there happens to be only one comm player on a team the first team to send their hit to me via PM will take precedence. If two teams hit the same player both hits will have been used. As far as credit for the hit it doesn't really matter. the team that loses a teammate will have lost either way.

Another reason to not hit me : both teams only get 2 hits, hitting me would be a wast dont you think, especial when you can have me conveniently voted off. (thats to the scumballs here)

 

[TankHobbyist]

Good grief.

Ok, Ill bite. What about McCrawdad's first posts did you find suspisus?

:welcome:

idk im the new guy im a good poker player and im alwaysing reading between the lines i dont take anything seriously that is said outright 4 in this game that is how you must play am i wrong??

plus i dont know how any of yal normaly talk so i can only guess

 

[TankHobbyist]

@TankHobbyist

Tank, what interested you about the mafia games on AC, that would have caused you to jump into a game?

idk saw it and decided it looked like fun im good at reading between the lines so i thought what the heck

 

[Fishfriend1]

idk im the new guy im a good poker player and im alwaysing reading between the lines i dont take anything seriously that is said outright 4 in this game that is how you must play am i wrong??

plus i dont know how any of yal normaly talk so i can only guess

to learn how we normally talk read another game, but first find out what roles we have so you can compare.
And you are correct, i just where my heart on my sleeves lol.
also if you are good at poker then youll be better at this then me probably.

 

[Fishfriend1]

So, dawg, you got an answer for my "when i die can i get a pm that has the names matched with the roles" question?