Mafia 72-Vampires game thread

[Kashta]

Re point #2:

Actually, Dag commented on it first saying that it could be better for them to use it tonight and I agreed with that...I think we were the only two to really say anything on the issue but I may be wrong.

Yep, thanks. I agreed with both your posts about that. Just didn't remember exactly who'd said what and didn't bother to go find them again just to quote them to FF.

 

[IceH2O]

Noods I'm in about the same position as you are. FF is running an extremely disorganized and chaotic game which doesn't seem to have any strategy behind it. As much as i keep thinking FF has his noob card hiddden away in his wallet that has bit me in the butt before.

2Hobbs on the completely other hand has been playing an informed game with comments and questions that directly question something instead of random chaotic comments. For someone playing their first game I find that a little odd but it is possible. There is change that 2hobbs is getting some guidance on when and where to comment and when to leave it be.

I am also worried about Ice, his early in the game comment about LR hand picking a lead role was somewhat troublesome but then excluding himself from the who would she pick list really doesn't sit well with me. Ice whether on purpose or just without thinking tried to bring something up that went against what the mod already stated in the game rules that all the roles were random. To me that seemed to be a calculated and yet subtle play. An attempt to cause non-drama over something we have been told is not correct while simultaneously diverting attention away from himself. I believe Ice is too good of a player for that to have just been a "what if" posting. Ice always throws strategy into what he posts.

I didn't make a list of who I thought Lab would handpick. I named 2 players that play well and under the radar. I didn't name any other players so for you to say I made a list and left me off isn't true.

For now my vote stands on FF, I need to reread the entire thread. I want to see who thinks he is innocent and why and also who is trying to deflect attention away from him.

Dag has also got my attention. I actually think this is the 2nd time he has claimed this same case against me, guess it didn't catch steam the 1st time and he thinks reiterating it will help.

 

[Kashta]

I was really hoping to read something that would help this morning. Did I?

Sorry to hear about your problems with real life Noodles, but didn't Fire Dancer try that and get caught? It doesn't seem to be a good excuse for being called out for your game play.

Fire Dancer did not "try that and get caught"; real life issues are real life issues. Her RL issues were valid even tho she was scum. I never claimed innocence for my lack of posts over the weekend, just gave my reasons. Read into it what you will. If you truly see that as scummy then knock yourself out. Personally, I find your instant ability to grasp the game so well as a noob, quite unsettling.......

Noods, Firedancer was on the evil team with me and Johnlarson recently. She had some RL issues at the time, but yes... she DID use those as an excuse to lay low and not post anything in the thread during that awful Gunslinger day. She said so to us in the scumden chat, too.

 

[IceH2O]

I'm having a hard time seeing FF be innocent but then again it is FF we're talking about. I think the last game that I played with him he wanted to have the mafia investigate him which would only benefit the mafia. He turned out to be innocent that game. Sometimes I get a feeling that I need to step back a sec and see the forest through the trees.

I think it was interesting that Ice had brought up the possible tweaking of the rules because I think that had that actually happened Ice would be been right up at the top of the list for a strong player for an important role. However I don't think that Lab Rat would tweak the list then say she didn't.

This was the other post I had skimmed through that caught my eye. Its not what I thought it was, but here I'm guessing he thinks I wouldn't bring it up if evil but then later he uses that reason for me bringing it up. I let him clarify the 2 posts before I make an hasty decisions.

 

[jpappy789]

No I'm saying we disagreed with 2H on that point so he was the only one who thought that at the time.

 

[jpappy789]

I think you confused it with another...I don't have Jmax down as playing in my mod notes.

Ack, got Jmax and Fire mixed up for some reason...

 

[IceH2O]

I am wondering if maybe you are Dracula FF, it isn't very pro-town to waste time with suspicions of what the mod did when it was already stated by the mod what they did.

Wiz, I think I actually was the 1st to question the Mods intentions when I said I don't believe in total random.

I'd love to vote JL but he isn't playing.

When I say the LV, Dracula, not being random I just mean I doubt if the number generator chose user or twohobbies that Lab would keep it the same.
Doesn't mean neither could be vampires,just not the lead.

I also brought up JB and Rich because if it was handpicked those are 2 I would choose as a Mod or one of my 1st picks as LV.

FF why would you try to act like the hunter or priest? Only way I can see this being a good strategy is if you're a vamp so if we think you are one of the PRs we wouldn't lynch you.

Starting to wonder if FF isn't trying to distance from hobbies.

Here is the post I made explaining it.

Ok. I had a crazy Lab-esque theory but I'm not sure it's even worth posting right now...




So why did you choose 2H as being the aggressive one out of anyone else? Can you point to some posts that lead you to that conclusion?

All theories are worth posting.

 

[Kashta]

No I'm saying we disagreed with 2H on that point so he was the only one who thought that at the time.

Okay, okay... gotcha. I did make that confusing and I see what you mean. I guess I agree with points made in all three posts and should have pulled them up while mentioning that. I don't think the LV would bite someone right away early on Day 1 (which is what 2H said) and Lab said they can't anyway. They have to wait until nightfall.

I also agree with the other posts which said the LV probably wouldn't wait too long to make use of that extra bite.... because the slayer could get lucky and kill them at any nightfall. So yes, you guys disagreed with 2H there about an early bite and while I agreed the LV wouldn't, I also agreed with your reasoning behind your posts disagreeing with 2H.

Does that make better sense now, or am I just making this messier? LOL.

Ok. I had a crazy Lab-esque theory but I'm not sure it's even worth posting right now...




So why did you choose 2H as being the aggressive one out of anyone else? Can you point to some posts that lead you to that conclusion?

I just saw this post again, Pappy, and it dawned on me what you must be getting at. Shame on you!

:lipssealedsmilie:

 

[Dagamoth]

This was the other post I had skimmed through that caught my eye. Its not what I thought it was, but here I'm guessing he thinks I wouldn't bring it up if evil but then later he uses that reason for me bringing it up. I let him clarify the 2 posts before I make an hasty decisions.

All I was saying that if you were correct about LR tweaking the list you would (in my mind at least) be right alongside the two people you named for an important roll. Seemed to me that you were bringing up a non issue that was clearly written in the rules of the game to divert some attention towards them. I believe that you are a wizened enough player to pay attention to what you post and look for motives behind it. With FF it is almost the complete opposite where you don't want to look for motive behind some of his posts because most likely your mind would explode before you found the reason.

 

[Dagamoth]

In addition to that last post that does not in anyway mean I don't suspect FF. He had pulled the wool over my eyes in one game and I won't forget that.