Mafia 72-Vampires game thread

[rich311k]

If FF was guilty then Ice is guilty only reason to make that switch. I can see Ice coming out on the teammate that saved him. They are ahead, FF comes up vamp, Ice looks nice and clean and the vamps clean up the loose edges and win.

FF you said that Ice was your highest suspect yet you pull off him to see a tie instead, if your Ice is #1 vamp suspect is true, then that dog will not hunt.

 

[Fishfriend1]

Ok, people, lets stop talking about the bite. Thats what the vamps want us to do. What we need to talk about are b4 night actions, not during night actions that we have no control over and can't possible come up with a true theory for. Unless ur on the vamp team you can't possible know why they missed the bite. For all we know, they each could have thought the other was PMing it to lab, and were just as surprised when nothing happened as we are.

As for the LG/Dawg thing, i think that at least one of them was a vamp, and that the vamps are trying to stroke the fire of confusion and suspition. LG did a very good job of making Dawg talk about his theories, which would get others to look at them too. They wasted an entire night to talk about theories that can't be proven true without more info. Unless Lab was screwing up and forgot to mention the bite, it didn't happen, so just give up with arguing about it and get on with life.

 

[jm1212]

I am sorry Dag but I think if Kash was the bite then LR would have mentioned it. I do not think the vamps would have gone near her anyway. There are plenty of other good targets out there.

I have to agree with this. If the vamps had targeted kash, then LR Wouldve had to say something about how their plot was foiled. On night one, LR didn't skip over the turn even though pappy was staked by the hunter

 

[Fishfriend1]

If FF was guilty then Ice is guilty only reason to make that switch. I can see Ice coming out on the teammate that saved him. They are ahead, FF comes up vamp, Ice looks nice and clean and the vamps clean up the loose edges and win.

FF you said that Ice was your highest suspect yet you pull off him to see a tie instead, if your Ice is #1 vamp suspect is true, then that dog will not hunt.

Yes, but I also said that Kashta was a suspect, and she was the towns seconed most favored person. I was starting to get doughts about Ice, and figured if im not gonna be on much, might as well take the risk of making it a tie. My gamble failed, and now im taking the heat. Notice that i have not tried to say it wasn't my fault, its totally my fault that Kashta is dead, and i wish i hadn't switched. As you can see, my vote is right back there on Ice, and will not be moving, short of a vamp coming out and say "I am a vampire! KILL ME". Anything less will just get my attention, and will be noted for future thoughts/feelings/opinions/votes after today.

Of course, because I will not have my mac, i may not be on AC for the lynch, and may even UD day 4(if im still alive). I have little left to lose by getting voted off, and even less by being turned. The vamps turn me, and then i UD or get voted for and they wasted a turn, so i figure im pretty safe to stick my neck out and be bold.

 

[Fishfriend1]

I am sorry Dag but I think if Kash was the bite then LR would have mentioned it. I do not think the vamps would have gone near her anyway. There are plenty of other good targets out there.

Lynch/Staking-Ok, we know that.

Priest protection-Comes first. If the Priest protects the to-be-turned i see no reason to ever state that the person had been targeted. Can Lab clarify this point?

Vampire bite/slayer's staking (if vampire bites slayer and slayer stakes vampire then it will be a coin toss as to who dies)-Thats why the Slayer's move was noted. IF could have ended with the slayer dieing and then we would need to know. Can lab clarify on that too?

Good soul staking**only 1 in the game and cannot be before night 3

Investigations

Untimely deaths

 

[rich311k]

Yes but if there was a priestly protection and a failed turn it would have been in the nightfall. LR said she would report all turns and kills. Besides that is the way these games are played unless stated otherwise.

 

[IceH2O]

I think we have our team. FF,2H and Dag

Here I asked FF what he thought about 2H

FF I see you voted 2H then retracted, why?

I mean I know it was to vote for me and if I remember its because of my Mod muff in 63.
What are your thoughts on 2H. I'm not asking you to save me by voting him. I'm not even going to move to Kash to save myself. I figure if an innocent has to go I will and it also prevents the other from being turned because of votes. I just want an honest answer since the 1st Day plus you had a vote on him. To be honest it almost looks like distancing to me.

here were my reasons: A)He knows way to much about the game to be a first time player. B)The whole "RANDOM" thing. I still think he tried to defend it way to vocally. C)He hasn't been entirely truthful with us. He looks into you for voting a UD and yet he doesn't care about all the others who voted DD. D)He seems to be trying to put dought into peoples minds.

All of those reasons still stand, and they are starting to make me more and more nervous about 2H. Unless something drastic happens i think he is where my vote will go tomorrow, maybe even today if I find more reasons to consider him scummy.

He thinks 2H is scummy but he still refuses to vote him even after the missed bite.

First question why would vamp team risk losing a bite? They wouldn't, while yes they could have chosen anyone to turn they went for the person who lead the crusade against you and who is also a well experienced player. Kashta would have been in the clear to almost everyone playing after you showed vampire. There is no one better to pick then the person who lead the crusade against you, the person who is experienced enough to make the transition from innocent to vampire without setting off alarm bells for the town. I am sure that when you sent in the bite pm you fully expected to be the vampire dying tonight. You had been leading in the votes for almost all of day 2. FF totally threw that plan into the blender with his literally last minute vote change.

I am now wondering about wiz being a vampire too. Five minutes after Ice votes for FF now there you are chiming in. Instead of asking why FF changed his vote you just hopped in and voted him. Is there a reason you were so hasty to vote FF instead of trying to hear him out? The only thing i can think of is an attempt to get a train started on him.

Still don't see why the vamp team would target someone with that many votes on them,especially with a chance of it being tied up.

Also look again. Wiz made the FF case sometime that evening and I voted FF in the morning before I left for work.

Just one question: If i was a vamp, why would i vote switch. Don't say to save a teammate, casue that would be stupid. I had little suspition on myself, and vote switching to save Ice would have just incriminated him like it has. My vote switching would not have helped the scum team if both me and Ice were scum, cause then you would have 2 people to look at who were vamps. Instead, you have at least 1 innocent to look at.



Ah, the "if only" post. How do you know it would have been a different outcome?



Dangerous why? Cause I messed up? Cause I vote switched to make it a coin flip with two people the town had decided were the most likely scum? How does that work out? And why would you vote me even if i wasn't a vamp? That would only hurt the town.



Yep, no teams have been able to control me, cept JB's team. And you all(should) remember what happened that game (i lasted till the evils won) which is very different from this game.



NO NO NO!
Thats exactly why the scum team would skip the hit/turn! LG and Dag have been arguing about it all night, so they couldn't have had time to look elsewhere! The vamps want to distract you from the game, and get you worked up over nothing. Their turn/hit failed, thats all that matters. Not why. Why just gets you distracted and confused in these games. Its the actions that matter most.

Now FF doesn't want Dags posts looked into. It won't be hard they are all against me and not looking anywhere else.

The only reason I could see the move being made by FF is because they saw a chance to take out Kash who is a really good player and would still be able to take me out today. When I had shown innocent Kash was gold and they wouldn't be able to lynch her, the priest would be protecting her so they couldn't turn her in the future either so this was their best chance.

I'd be willing to vote any of the 3 of Dag FF and 2H.

 

[IceH2O]

The only reason I could see the move being made by FF is because they saw a chance to take out Kash who is a really good player and would still be able to take me out today. When I had shown innocent Kash was gold and they wouldn't be able to lynch her, the priest would be protecting her so they couldn't turn her in the future either so this was their best chance.

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Forget that part. I was getting ready and started thinking and I realized I made a mistake.Kash wouldn't be gold.. I shouldn't post in the morning lol.


I'll think about it today but there has to be a reason why they thought better to take Kash out then me at that time.

Only other reason is that Kash is more into the game then I am and has more time to pull posts for cases and I'm still a suspect either way.

 

[noodles62]

I am sorry Dag but I think if Kash was the bite then LR would have mentioned it. I do not think the vamps would have gone near her anyway. There are plenty of other good targets out there.

I agree with that 100%

 

[noodles62]

Ok, people, lets stop talking about the bite. Thats what the vamps want us to do. What we need to talk about are b4 night actions, not during night actions that we have no control over and can't possible come up with a true theory for. Unless ur on the vamp team you can't possible know why they missed the bite. For all we know, they each could have thought the other was PMing it to lab, and were just as surprised when nothing happened as we are.

As for the LG/Dawg thing, i think that at least one of them was a vamp, and that the vamps are trying to stroke the fire of confusion and suspition. LG did a very good job of making Dawg talk about his theories, which would get others to look at them too. They wasted an entire night to talk about theories that can't be proven true without more info. Unless Lab was screwing up and forgot to mention the bite, it didn't happen, so just give up with arguing about it and get on with life.

WTH are you talking about? Dawg is not even playing?