Mafia 91 the game survival.
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Going back from the start of the game, obviously there really isn't much to go on but Kash raises a couple questions for me....
Then the part about Pap even adding a vote for him because of it, to me it seemed as though Pap was "teasing" Doll, not really accusing her of anything. I took the "red flag" part of his post as more of a joke.
First post, nothing really except we all know how thorough Kash is on things, I know when I've been the mod she has come up with things I never even thought about or dreamed anyone would think about...for her not to notice there was nothing about what would happen in the event of a tie, I dunno could be nothing but it does stand out to me.
This post has a couple things that "bug" me a bit. First she questions Wizard about his vote on me, adding that he didn't say why he voted me...although she even highlighted the fact he said "to avoid UD" I think that was pretty much his "reason". I understand she was most likely trying to get more from him, but he also stated in that post he wouldn't be back before nightfall.
Then the part about Pap even adding a vote for him because of it, to me it seemed as though Pap was "teasing" Doll, not really accusing her of anything. I took the "red flag" part of his post as more of a joke.
You never said anything about that in your posts before. You only said (and I quote) "This quick flurry of posts seems like a big jump to me...didn't even let UN respond." from your post. That was all you said in relation to Bally at the time, and was the only thing you openly said you felt her vote worthy for. So now, why are you adding to your argument after A) you voted, and B) nightfall ended? Changing your story just isn't the townie way to go.
So, to make my various reasoning easier for others to understand, I'll post it all again here:
1- Pappy is changing his story. Scummy...
2- Pappy voted Bally over nothing more then 3 rapid succession posts and not waiting for UN to respond. UN could have taken hours to reply, no one would bother waiting that long. If he came up with a good defense, then the vote could simply be removed.
3- He dislikes lolpics. Only evil can dislike those.
4- I feel as though the whole "voted FF, retracted vote, voted Bally" thing was pre-planned.
Upon that reasoning, I vote to lynch Pappy. Sorry, buddy, but I think your evil.
Ummm...yes I did....
Here I explain that Bally jumped on UN's comment which looked like obvious sarcasm when you include the context in which it was posted (ie. NPR's vote count post). THIS IS WHY I VOTED. Hopefully that is now clear to you.
Here I mention it being a quick flurry of posts...which it was, but I leave it at that. I don't see anything within this sentence where I make this the main reason for suspecting Bally. I pulled the three posts of her to show what I was referring to, described it as it was, and only mentioned that she voted without letting UN respond (which now I assume was because there was bad weather in her area). I did not know that at the time I was writing the post. Nothing about this sentence says that I suspected Bally because of the timing of her posts. See where I said "...seems like a big jump to me"? THIS WAS NOT WHY I VOTED. Hopefully that is also clear to you.
FF, post #87 CLEARLY outlines my line of thinking regarding Bally. I do not see what is so hard to understand...
@Pappy: Well, I feel really, really dumb right now... and for a valid reason. I never actually noticed Ninja misspelling "Kashta" as "Kasta", which is a fail in of itself... and I didn't understand the middle part of your post because of that. I wasn't seeing where the whole "joke" thing came in because I didn't notice that Kashta's name was misspelled. So, yea, I feel like a complete moron.
I retract my vote on Pappy
However, considering that I completely missed that Ninja had misspelled Kashta's name, I do think it would be completely possible for Bally to have done the same. Now, Bally's last post was yesterday about a tornado warning (meaning a tornado had been spotted) and so she probably hasn't seen this entire argument. I hope she's okay (tornadoes aren't exactly friendly) and will give her the benefit of the doubt until she returns to defend herself. I know giving people the benefit of the doubt isn't the best thing to do in Mafia, but I screwed up and so could she.
Now I have to find someone else to vote for, but there aren't many cases I can honestly say I understand or see. I'll figure something out, or just FF my way though it... :dance:
I retract my vote on Pappy
However, considering that I completely missed that Ninja had misspelled Kashta's name, I do think it would be completely possible for Bally to have done the same. Now, Bally's last post was yesterday about a tornado warning (meaning a tornado had been spotted) and so she probably hasn't seen this entire argument. I hope she's okay (tornadoes aren't exactly friendly) and will give her the benefit of the doubt until she returns to defend herself. I know giving people the benefit of the doubt isn't the best thing to do in Mafia, but I screwed up and so could she.
Now I have to find someone else to vote for, but there aren't many cases I can honestly say I understand or see. I'll figure something out, or just FF my way though it... :dance:
And since I know your gonna pull this yourself in a few moments:
"Bally, did you really think that UN was being serious about not knowing Kashta? I figured it was a joke from the get-go."
Notice, even then I thought it was "Kashta", not "Kasta". Now, the joke I thought it was was just a dumb small joke that made little sense. Anyhow, that's my explanation for this stuff, now that I'm done FFing it up I'll try to DD it down
"Bally, did you really think that UN was being serious about not knowing Kashta? I figured it was a joke from the get-go."
Notice, even then I thought it was "Kashta", not "Kasta". Now, the joke I thought it was was just a dumb small joke that made little sense. Anyhow, that's my explanation for this stuff, now that I'm done FFing it up I'll try to DD it down
I agree, she may have very well missed the sarcasm. But what I find interesting is that somehow Bally would then think that UN was being serious about not knowing Kashta. I'm pretty sure all of us have played more than one game with everyone on this game's player list...
So, for me the top two people with possible cases against them are:
UN : I don't know how he manages it, but he always figures out a way to get himself killed. Honestly, the evils don't even have to try, he just sort of does it on his own. Keeping that in mind, what he's done so far seems to be honest UN action, and while it may look scummy I can also see it just being UN.
Kashta (or "Kasta") : You said that Pappy was given a red flag for that bit about finding DD suspicious for wanting to spat with him. I still find it hard to understand how that was suspicious, care to explain?
Un, you never did answer my question in post 128. I'll repost it for ya:
So, as you can all see, the possible cases against people are so weak it's almost not worth the effort it took to post them. Almost. Anyhow, and so we go...
UN : I don't know how he manages it, but he always figures out a way to get himself killed. Honestly, the evils don't even have to try, he just sort of does it on his own. Keeping that in mind, what he's done so far seems to be honest UN action, and while it may look scummy I can also see it just being UN.
Kashta (or "Kasta") : You said that Pappy was given a red flag for that bit about finding DD suspicious for wanting to spat with him. I still find it hard to understand how that was suspicious, care to explain?
Un, you never did answer my question in post 128. I'll repost it for ya:
So, as you can all see, the possible cases against people are so weak it's almost not worth the effort it took to post them. Almost. Anyhow, and so we go...
Well, I never played with this "Kasta" either...
I think that Bally just saw UN make his surprisingly good joke (now that I understand it) and simply overreacted. I can relate (big time) so I can also see how that would end up. She'll probably come back, re-read all of this, and then fall out of her chair laughing at her mistake. That's what I did when I finally understood it :rofl:That doesn't mean I don't think it's a possibility, it just mean's I think it's less of a possibility then her just missing it and overreacting.
in other words you just paid attention to the parts that were already being discussed. Had you been actually trying to figure out my posts (and my alignment...) you would've read the whole post.
Sorry I haven't been around today, my family just brought home a dog so I've been running around setting things up for him. Wicked cool dog, he's a Lhaso something or other.
Rereading some more, I'll be back around at 7-9 tommorow to vote.
