Mafia 94: When Gingers Attack; the play

Kashta said:
That's it for now. Wish I could be here during the day tomorrow to see what else happens.



As it stands right now, I'm hard pressed to find a compelling suspect. Overall, I think a few people seem real suspicious for not making any effort to help us in the time they've been present (based on posts made).

I vote to genetically test Chill.

I think Chill has been the least helpful poster thus far. This is basically a gut call based on a real low signal-to-noise ratio from him.

When he's a townie, Chill is quite good at scum digging. But I have yet to see him even start doing this. He's given us lots of fun role play stuff, posted music videos, and tended bar. Thanks for all that, Chill... but I already have a great bartender so I won't be needing you for that.

I'd much rather have you helping us poke around for clues to find those without souls.
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This stood out to me... At that point in the game, Dawg had posted nothing but fluff (he even said so in post 218). She failed to even mention Dawg.
 
Piranha86 said:
This stood out to me... At that point in the game, Dawg had posted nothing but fluff (he even said so in post 218). She failed to even mention Dawg.
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Not to mention Dangerdoll...

Kashta, why did you immediately vote Chill for being 'non-useful' when he has been posting (and contributing a little) while Dawg and DD had posted nothing but fluff at that point?
 
Zaffy said:
First off, I don't buy the theory usually. But it's proven useful in the past to get people out of hiding. Second, you didn't prove anything.
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I proved that whether you think I'm scum or not...being able to get off someones list by posting means that scum could do the same and is therefore not a reasonable theory.

RazzleFish said:
This stuck out to me... Why point out LG above anyone else? Why above DD? Or 2H?







And then this little conversation seems strange. They aren't clashing but not agreeing.... Distancing? Upping post count?



So your goal was to post a bunch to get off Plants "low posters" list? Did you hopw that by getting out of Plant's "low posters" category, that she would remove her vote from you? Seems pretty scummy IMO.
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She had already listed DD & 2H in her post. You may want to reread.

I don't need to get off of Plant's list. I'm not worried at all about being on her list. I already said that was sarcasm. So there's two people who missed the wink smiley. Maybe you and Zaffy are on the same team and I have just proven that Gingers can't see smileys ;) <-----For all you Ginger's there is a wink smiley right there.
 
Kashta said:
It's Day 1 ladies and AAF is a noob. I don't agree with DD that Lab was really picking on him. If AAF keeps on posting the way he began, he draws that attention to himself. I also don't agree with Lab that DD is defending him.

It may be worth watching how DD and Lab align themselves with or against each other. This exchange I quoted could be nothing but innocent sparring between them. Could also be a little early distancing.
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I pulled this because you pretty much sum up my thoughts on this so far...

plantling said:
According to my notes, unless I just missed it somehow, 2H hasn't posted. Can't recall if they were all that active in the other games. Anyone? Hope to hear from him and more from others throughout the day. Remember, the innocents only allow the evils to hide among them when they are so laxed. More posting (non "fluff" posts) equals more discussions and info we have to go on.

IME, there are 3-4 gingers. 4 might be high as they have 1 50/50 chance to gain one. Another reason to post our thoughts so that if they are successful in turning one of us we might can tell by a change in attitude towards others, posting style, etc.
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You may of answered this by now, but as I said I am posting as I go but, Plant you say there is (IYE) 3-4 gingers...in the rules it does say 3 so why the "3-4"? You note that they have a 1 time 50/50 chance of changing one, so I know you read the rules...just wondering how you missed the fact it states how many there are?

the wizard said:
Holy Crap! log in and 83 posts already. Just did a quick skim and will post after work when I have time to read through more carefully.

Some quick thoughts that struck me as I was skimming (yes I said skimming, thought I would go for DD's title :rolleyes:)



Maybe we should genetically test JB.



Wow, I thought I was skimming.



Glad to see you back Chill. Glad to see you replenishing the wheat and barley. No hops? We need to rethink our bio-degradable beer cans. However, you have been gone to long and your memory must not have returned with you.

Beer is an appetizer, a quick grab it from the fridge when you get home drink to ready the palate for the true nectar of the gods, SCOTCH.:thm:
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Was I skimming? There really wasn't anything to skim at that point Wizard...I came to the game, saw what JB had posted with a game on so yeah I asked about where the roles/rules were (when I typed it, he hadn't posted them) when my post posted, he had.
 
Kashta said:
I see what you're getting at, Razzle. But have you considered who you're directing this question to?

Honestly, it doesn't surprise me that Pir would make goofy statements without bothering to look at the list of players. I'm not sure Pir really gets how this game works most of the time.

Whenever I'm in game, you can be sure I've checked out who else is in the game. I imagine that's true for many others, too. I just don't find it difficult to believe that Pir would actually say some of the things he did and still be clueless about the players listed. That seems fairly consistent with his approach to the game.
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Maybe, for me at least, it was just wishful thinking that a player like Pir would have progressed enough in his gameplay to actually realize why making statements like that without even checking the player list would be considered scummy. I do what you are saying though and perhaps it is just more frustrating than anything right now.

I still do not understand his discussion = commotion point even when he has tried to explain it...

plantling said:
Who Posted?

Just enough time for one post before I go. Yes, I'm gonna comment on posts again. Some players have less posts than the mod! I would understand if the posts were helpful or somewhat game related if one was truly busy but cough *Dawg's* is almost all *fluff*. So true to my word, I vote to genetically test Dawg.

Subject to change if I actually see you kicking doors or posting helpful game related posts.

DD, do you have any comments or opinions other than about Lab?

2H, saw some thought from you and seems to me scum would know how many townie pr's there are, but then again, would they? Would also like to hear more from you.

And Pir, do you normally play without checking the player list? Also how did you get that I wanted "commotion" from my posts? Seems like you took one part of my post and ran with it and totally missed the point. Scum have been known to twist ppl's posts.
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I find a few things wrong with this approach, Plant...

1) Prefacing this with post count

Really? I think this is the most overused and pointless part of any vote, ever. I think we can all agree that some people have posted more than others.

2) Mentioning that some have posted less than the mod (JB)

What does this have to do with anything? The mod is not a player, their posts are irrelevant outside of rule-talk and nightly events. Consider that the mod generally makes up a good amount of posts at the beginning of games answering questions, like the one I posed to him. Jb also forgot the roles in the initial post. He also joked around in a post. Oh, and he decided that we may switch to shorter days. Had none of that happened this point would be moot.

3) Your subsequent questioning of said players with 6 posts or less

Would you consider AAF to be helpful or be kicking in doors? They have a relatively large amount of posts but nothing has been short of adding to confusion...

4) Telling Dawg that your vote may change if you see him help

Are you really going to change your vote if that happens? Or are you going to turn around and say that he only posted because you called him out? That statement seems like a trap, to me.

the wizard said:
So, I am in a pickle. It is unlikely that I will be able to return to the game prior to nightfall. I therefore, need to vote.

Although a couple of people have caught my attention, I really don't have any conviction one way or the other about them.

I don't remember Labby being so serious so soon, Pir may have slipped up. I can't figure if AAF slipped up or if he is FF jr. I have never played with Plant before so I don't know if she is just rusty or playing her normal style.

I can't help but feel this nagging in the back of my head about those who early in D1 are wanting to shorten the days w/o seeing how the game progresses first. D1 is way to early to even discuss shortening the length of the days.
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I think quite the opposite Wiz. Lab is usually one of the first to make that switch to actual gameplay. She doesn't stick to the fluff very long...

Piranha86 said:
That is not even close to what I said.

And it begins.

By commotion I mean when everybody is posting left and right and it becomes overwhelming. I think I have clearly explained this.

Say what you're going to say, but don't be nasty about it.
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Not really, I don't see anywhere in Plant's posts that she wanted the discussion to become overwhelming.
 
plantling said:
Oh, G, hope everything is ok.
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THanks Plant...yes, everything is fine of course she is shook up but nothing was taken and no one was hurt, but the police are acting like it is nothing and the fact someone was in her house while she was sleeping really has her upset.

Piranha86 said:
I disagree. I think it's easier for scum to hide when there is lots of commotion going on. If there is a little slip up by scum while there is a lot going on, it's dismissed easier because of all the other little slip-ups by everyone else. The fact that you want more commotion seems scummy to me.

Chill used the G word! Must be scum!

Good luck with everything, I know that can be pretty hectic.
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Chill said:
Can you actually say the "G-word" Pir?
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Let's watch throwing that "G" word around boys!
 
Piranha86 said:
In all honesty, I didn't read over the player list. I see what you're saying.

I remember that.
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I know this has been brought up quite a bit, but....really Pir how can you play a game without even looking at the list, that's a pretty important part of the game dont ya think?



Piranha86 said:
I just didn't bother to look at it. SImple as that.

You definitely got me. (not) I just didn't peruse the player list.
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WOW, I know you have been known to say/do some really out there things in these games, but seriously Pir?

Dangerdoll said:
g/o hope everything is ok, G g/o


Labby, sorry but I am having a hard time getting that you have missed the joke and then continue on to ask why I said I was being serious (which was sarcastic) and then said I was joking was conflicting. I will try to anounce my sarcasm as it is hard to read..... Lord knows I've been one to miss sarcasm too.....

why continue about it though....
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/go/ Thank you Doll/go/

TwoHobbies said:
Not sure what makes that safe to assume. With the hitman getting two hits I'd say there is a good chance that there is a forth ginger without a role.
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Seriously...are you also saying you don't think the rules are correct?
 
I have work in an hour and therefore will be gone for nightfall...and need to vote now, unfortunately.

I vote to genetically test Plant

I do not like the "low post" (for lack of a better term) angle she is trying to play and she has been building up to the vote by mentioning it over, and over that we need to post more.

Normally I would have waited for a reply first but I dont want to UD either...
 
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