Mafia 96 Who Are You? Game Thread

[the wizard]

VOTE COUNT

3) AAF – JB(873), JP(903), Ice(926),
2) Ice – Dag(884), LG(977)
1) DD – LR(959),
1) Zaffy – Rich(976),

No votes – AAF, Kashta, Zaffy, DD, Chill, Dun


Night fall in 8 hours. PM's as needed.

 

[dundadundun]

i vote to lynch ice. apparently his word holds a lot of weight at the right (wrong?) time and his game play/reasoning seems shifty to me.

subject to change if need be.

i'm interested in hearing something logical that can be substantiated in terms of how/why a 3 way tie could be beneficial when it was a 53%/46% field in terms of quantity of scum vs. townies. a 2 way tie with logical scum suspects didn't seem like a bad thing numbers wise, but 3 way seems to open up some doors for more randomness and a single deciding vote.

 

[dundadundun]

that brings us to...

3) AAF – JB(873), JP(903), ice (926)
1) Ice – Dag(884), LG(977), Dun(982)
1) DD – LR(959)
1) zaffy - rich(976)

No votes – AAF, Kashta, Zaffy, DD, Chill
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*notable – DD votes AAF without bolding (973). Is this a scummy trick or a noob mistake? Hmmm...


Seems to be we're still preying on the week. i see AAF as a suspect, too, but preying on the week and leaving strong playing scummates for the end of game play may be a mistake.

 

[jpappy789]

I haven't been able to read much into the Ice thing so I'm sticking with my vote on AAF. Hopefully I will be back later this afternoon/evening and have more time to read.

 

[Lab_Rat]

It took me a moment to figure out what Dag was talking about above...so I took out the rest of the post to just the point....

So Ice...you first say...how if someone states someone else is innocent (or the think) we can conclude they are scum right? Then you go on to say "but I'd lean him innocent" (in your 5th grade explanation to me). So yet again you have gone against your own words (the first time being the spread out votes/tie votes shenanigans).

Leaning someone innocent is not calling them innocent, so I am confused by how he went against his own words. Now if he'd come out and said that he thought Dag was innocent that would be a different story.

 

[Lab_Rat]

i'm interested in hearing something logical that can be substantiated in terms of how/why a 3 way tie could be beneficial when it was a 53%/46% field in terms of quantity of scum vs. townies. a 2 way tie with logical scum suspects didn't seem like a bad thing numbers wise, but 3 way seems to open up some doors for more randomness and a single deciding vote.

It's a numbers thing. You have 3 people up there, you have a greater chance of seeing movement. At this point in the game we're going to have to be more careful with that (in this format) The reason we have to be more careful is so we don't see movement from the wrong team.

Best case scenario: 3 communicating innocents, no communicating scum
Worst case scenario: 3 communicating scum, no communicating innocents

Now I'd expect each team to likely have 2 in communication (50% chance each night of investigating a teammate.) A tie may be harmful to the town at this point. Numbers in the game are lower and there is a higher likelihood that more innocents are communicating.

 

[Zaffy]

Looking back through, I think the arguments against Zaffy and DD are just smoke screens, it's an easy place for someone to hide a vote because those 2 haven't participated much. I suspect those who keep bringing that topic up.

AAF is pretty scummy, I'd be very comfortable with sending him to the gallows tonight.

Ice was very instrumental in getting UN lynched, which is great, but there's also a very good chance that it was a total lucky fluke. In fact, at one point based on his own vote count (which had an error that was later corrected) he gave up on the mission to get the tie. He came back around, but that made me question his intentions. overall, I don't trust him and I'd also be comfortable sending him to the gallows.

I'll be around for a few hours today, but then I have another Halloween party to go to.

I vote to lynch AAF for now.

 

[Zaffy]

It's a numbers thing. You have 3 people up there, you have a greater chance of seeing movement. At this point in the game we're going to have to be more careful with that (in this format) The reason we have to be more careful is so we don't see movement from the wrong team.

Best case scenario: 3 communicating innocents, no communicating scum
Worst case scenario: 3 communicating scum, no communicating innocents

Now I'd expect each team to likely have 2 in communication (50% chance each night of investigating a teammate.) A tie may be harmful to the town at this point. Numbers in the game are lower and there is a higher likelihood that more innocents are communicating.

The problem with a 3 way tie is that one of those in the tie can switch their vote, thereby saving themselves and ensuring one of the other 2 dies. There is no need for a teammate to step in, it can all be done by the lynchee.

 

[Lab_Rat]

The problem with a 3 way tie is that one of those in the tie can switch their vote, thereby saving themselves and ensuring one of the other 2 dies. There is no need for a teammate to step in, it can all be done by the lynchee.

Yeah, but you would expect a teammate to interject somehow since all 3 would be jockeying to get the other lynched.

And I don't understand why you think you and DD shouldn't be scrutinized for contributing little to the town. I've seen both of you slide by as scum posting little and claiming busyness irl (which may be true but still).

 

[dundadundun]

It's a numbers thing. You have 3 people up there, you have a greater chance of seeing movement. At this point in the game we're going to have to be more careful with that (in this format) The reason we have to be more careful is so we don't see movement from the wrong team.

Best case scenario: 3 communicating innocents, no communicating scum
Worst case scenario: 3 communicating scum, no communicating innocents

Now I'd expect each team to likely have 2 in communication (50% chance each night of investigating a teammate.) A tie may be harmful to the town at this point. Numbers in the game are lower and there is a higher likelihood that more innocents are communicating.

we had a lot of movement with a 2 way tie. makes your movement theory a moot point altogether.

50% is the case no matter how many of what are going down. there's only two possible outcomes when someone is investigated.

The problem with a 3 way tie is that one of those in the tie can switch their vote, thereby saving themselves and ensuring one of the other 2 dies. There is no need for a teammate to step in, it can all be done by the lynchee.

same can (and almost did) happen in a 2 way tie.