Mafia 97: Patrick Mafia, Crazy for Swayze the game

2H... I'm confused. I know, it's shocking, but humor me if you would. Pappy asked a question which Mad had to re-post to get a response from you:

Madcrawdad said:
Why the super-skimming to come up with a valid reason for voting? Your D1 vote's pretty much locked in at that point, isn't it? So why not take your time?



2H, Pappy asked this earlier, but you haven't addressed it. With supposedly not having anything to go on, you settled on UN. Why?
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You posted the following which I took as an answer to that question. Please correct me if I'm wrong.

TwoHobbies said:
There wasn't much to go on, but I thought this post of his was pretty stupid after Jpap took some questions for his code post.
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Then you say this:

TwoHobbies said:
Who said UN's comment was scummy.

What made it different is it followed yours after you took some heat. You really need my help with this?

It was a day one vote.
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Now it seems to me that you are using UN's code post as reasoning for your vote, then you come back and say it's not scummy. So what criteria are you using to vote? If it's not scumminess of posting, what is it? It seems to me that your frame of mind isn't to find scum at all.

Labby jumped on me yesterday for really no reason at all. Now you jump on me right after nightfall for the most obvious of reasons... a late vote switch. Are you new? If I was scum do you really think I would have drawn attention to myself in such a way? Did you bump your head?

The only thing I'm trying to work out now is if you and Labby are in it together or if you just jumped on the way you did because you thought it would be easy to get me taken out after such a maneuver as my vote switch.
 
I also find it interesting, 2H that you never really bothered to question me about the vote switch. No "why Wiz over UN" no "how come the last minute switch" you just latched right on to me being scum like a puppy with a frisbee. That's not looking for scum in my book, that's pushing an agenda.

I vote to lynch 2H.
 
Fishfriend1 said:
I would like to start this by saying the following "holy crap, I survived!". Next, I'm a little late (duh) but I have my thoughts on the day, what few I was able to come up with while super-skimming on the hopes of finding a valid reason for voting anyone (which I didn't really find).

I would like to note that I was complaining that I WOULDN'T have a lot of time. We were in school Wed, Family Thurs, Work Friday. Not a lot of free time (AKA: none). So, now that's out of the way...

Oh boy, what am I, 150% newb? :)

I honestly can't say whether AAF is evil or not. I do not know if he is, and looking at it as though I was in his shoes... well, it's still a 50/50 toss up for scum or not. We play the same basic way, both are easily rushed when evil and innocent, and we both dig our own graves. I would hesitate to say innocent, but only because I often screw up in the same way (overdefending) when innocent.

Well, it only took me... how many games has it been since I started? And I'm still learning :) However, I do think that game 4 isn't long enough to master the skills of mafia, though I'm sure some people can.

If I could re-vote, it would probably be on labby. She's the one who stated first that myself and AAF would have "plenty of time" and had been saying we had plenty of time. I never said such, and even if I had, things can change. My work could have called me in if I wasn't already there today. They could have done so Wed or Thurs too. I could have gotten sick from over eating (my sister did). So what people say they can do is rarely what happens. Besides that, why is it so vital that what is said BEFORE the game starts or roles are handed out be held to when the game starts. So yea. Labby, you're my next vote.
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FF, you seem pretty confident about Labby because she says you guys would have plenty of time.... really? That's what you would consider scummy? This looks more to me that you are opting for Labby as scum because she took your ball in the playground... I guess the thing that bothers me most is that you go on and on making excuses as to why you and AAF should be left alone...... do you have any particular reason as to why AAF is so "excused" and why Labby is so scummy? I just think your opinion on each is incredibly strong. I am just having a hard time considering that you find that because Labby said you'd have plenty of time is all you've found on catching up on the thread. It's a poor reason for suspicion on anyone, even for you. Is this the reason why you haven't voted yet?


allaboutfish said:
playing the noob card now arent we???
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Fishfriend1 said:
??? Where did I ever say that? I enjoy making fun of my newbiness, if that's what you're referring to, but my "newb" card expired at least 15 games ago. If my memory is correct, and it should be, I was defending you in that post... I'm starting to doubt my defense, and it was more a "well, I goof up like this so maybe he did too" defense.
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allaboutfish said:
it was a joke
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then the conversation between you too, I am finding this troubling.
 
Dangerdoll said:
FF, you seem pretty confident about Labby because she says you guys would have plenty of time.... really? That's what you would consider scummy? This looks more to me that you are opting for Labby as scum because she took your ball in the playground... I guess the thing that bothers me most is that you go on and on making excuses as to why you and AAF should be left alone...... do you have any particular reason as to why AAF is so "excused" and why Labby is so scummy? I just think your opinion on each is incredibly strong. I am just having a hard time considering that you find that because Labby said you'd have plenty of time is all you've found on catching up on the thread. It's a poor reason for suspicion on anyone, even for you. Is this the reason why you haven't voted yet?







then the conversation between you too, I am finding this troubling.
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i dont see how you find that troubling. are people not allowed to joke?
 
TwoHobbies said:
Who said UN's comment was scummy.

What made it different is it followed yours after you took some heat. You really need my help with this?

It was a day one vote.
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It was also a D1 vote that was technically supposed to lead to UN's death.

Do you think that UN wasn't just going along with the joke?

Right now I find it suspect that when questioned about your vote on UN you bring up that post of his but turn around and say that it didn't make him look scummy.
 
TwoHobbies said:
Just seems strange to me that you would risk a late vote move to take out Wiz on day one. Wouldn't he be a great asset? I've got a mirror if you really want to find scum!

Personally I think going after your biggest threat on day one is a good strategy.
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Good strategy for which team?
 
allaboutfish said:
i dont see how you find that troubling. are people not allowed to joke?
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can I have my hand back now that it's been slapped? of course they are.... it's everyone's right.... but your joke looked a little inappropriately placed.... you know, because of all the seriousness....
 
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