Mafia 2014 #1-- FF1 Simple--The Play

[Fishfriend1]

Dear god what happened to my post... Not all of that is supposed to be in quotes, I'm not entirely sure what happened up there...

 

[jpappy789]

Have you seen most day 1's? They usually end up with votes scattered fairly evenly, so the chances of Zaffy being the person lynched at exactly 1/8. So forgive me for assuming my vote would mean nothing on day 1 with a 1/8 chance of it being on the lynched guy -_-

Ummm....what? Earlier you were saying it was unlikely Zaffy would be lynched, but if votes are spread evenly that would make it MORE likely that Zaffy could be lynched because it would essentially take maybe one or two more votes on top of yours. Again, something you should NEVER just assume would not happen over the course of almost two entire game days. Even in the extremely unlikely event where everyone has one vote (this 1/8 situation you mention) that makes Zaffy just as equal as anyone else, which again contradicts your original point.

 

[Kashta]

7pm Eastern would be my timezone, but I'll be at work then so I definitely couldn't get away with a last minute vote.



Fair enough. I doubt that we'll have a scum vote day one, but we can hope



Long post short, I am a busy person with a load of classwork to do, combined with working today in grocery which I expected to be a lot more tired from. I'm busy tomorrow too with lunch with my dad, a take home test for MicroEcon, and editing an English paper into a final draft, + working in the evening. I don't think I'd be able to make a very good vote for day one regardless of what is posted over the course of the day, and I honestly don't have time to worry about my day 1 vote. Day 2 I'll have more time since I'm not crunching my schoolwork.



I honestly doubt that Zaffy will be voted off - besides the fact that he IS a good player, there is also my reason for it: because he questioned my status as #1. If THAT gets him lynched... well then I'd be impressed at the people who took it and ran with it.

So, basically, if Zaff gets lynched, we shouldn't blame you for putting his name out there, right? lol.

You've been in these games too long to pretend you don't know how votes follow votes, even when the first one putting a person's name on the board was a random, joke, or safety vote. Many players follow what's already in the game because they don't care to dig for themselves or they don't want to draw any attention. I have no doubt you know that.

This is another bad answer. I'm not buying it.

 

[Fishfriend1]

Ummm....what? Earlier you were saying it was unlikely Zaffy would be lynched, but if votes are spread evenly that would make it MORE likely that Zaffy could be lynched because it would essentially take maybe one or two more votes on top of yours. Again, something you should NEVER just assume would not happen over the course of almost two entire game days. Even in the extremely unlikely event where everyone has one vote (this 1/8 situation you mention) that makes Zaffy just as equal as anyone else, which again contradicts your original point.

Going to be frank, you're blowing what was meant to be an irrelevant vote way out of proportion. I'm not even entirely sure where you're going with this argument except to try and make me look bad (which seems fairly scummy) for placing a vote early on day 1 because I felt it wouldn't have much effect on the game, being a day 1 vote an all.

 

[jpappy789]

Going to be frank, you're blowing what was meant to be an irrelevant vote way out of proportion. I'm not even entirely sure where you're going with this argument except to try and make me look bad (which seems fairly scummy) for placing a vote early on day 1 because I felt it wouldn't have much effect on the game, being a day 1 vote an all.

I've missed being able to use that smilie. But seriously FF...maybe I'm "agitated" and blowing things "way out of proportion" (your words) because you're making absolutely no sense. Honestly, it was as simple as saying that you thought you wouldn't have had enough time to vote otherwise and I probably would have ignored it for the most part. I was very willing to give you the benefit of the doubt, as I have already mentioned.

But this whole I-didn't-think-Zaffy-would-be-lynched excuse went way too far and is just plain illogical.

1) You placed the very first vote. There was absolutely no way you could know where any of the remaining 7 votes would fall over the next 24+ hours.
2) If votes are spread out, which you yourself said happens often on D1, it wouldn't even take that many more to put Zaffy in the running.

Just because I'm pointing out your inconsistencies, and you have no legitimate rebuttal, doesn't mean I'm scummy. Maybe you should stop trying so hard to appear innocent and actually get your story straight?

 

[Kashta]

You miss 1 piece of code when you go to copy a quote and the entire post gets ruined haha. Well, assuming I get back tomorrow and manage to read everything I'll reply to any questions then. If not, well, here's to hoping I don't get lynched! -raises a glass of cola-

So what's going on with the messed up quotes? This keeps happening in several posts following that one. They pop in automatically and everything is set correctly if you don't mess with them.

Well, fair enough on that, but how would my vote have any relation to "completely unrelated" reasons? In that case it would not show me to be guilty or innocent, since my reason was not the cause of his lynch.

Ok, NOW, I go to bed haha.

See that's the thing, it isn't just about you. Zaffy was a convenient vote made extra early for no real reason other than FF gets to act like he can't be held accountable for it. I see no actual risk of FF UDing because it only take a few min to pop in with a random vote to avoid a UD even if he has no time to catch up in the thread.

If you had answered that you thought there was a good chance you'd be gone for the weekend, then I'd believe the UD excuse. But you had already said you expected to be on and off. Clearly, you knew you didn't need that early to vote to stay alive.

Jpappy, the fact of the matter is that when I placed my vote I didn't think Zaffy would be lynched. I still think it's a bit far fetched to assume he would be lynched or to ask why I think he wouldn't (I just don't... meh). As for agitated, I'm not entire sure what word would fit your reaction best. You definitely reacted though, and I took it as agitation. And we all know I overexplain when people accuse me of stuff, I'm still working on that aspect of my personality, I'm annoyed to say, though I think I'm getting better. Maybe a little at least.

Apparently not.. lmao.

 

[Kashta]

Hi all, had a busy couple days just got the time to sit down and read now.


Honestly don't see the big deal behind voting a vet (everyone besides me and FF?) early so that you don't ud. What seems weird is then being able to keep posting about it, defending yourself afterwards. FF if you were going to be so busy that you had to throw out a vote right away, then why were you suddenly able to post again. The WIFOMs are starting to make my head hurt, but using no activity as an excuse to cast an early vote and then being one of the more prolific posters anyways (out of a whopping 2 pages, but still) is scummy without a doubt.





Uh what post are you referring to? Care to at least summarize it for us?


I really want to vote FF right now , but with such a small game I feel like a wrong vote is going to screw us over really early and I have literally one thing to go off of. Then again, I don't want to UD and screw us over even more. Guess I'll have to sleep on it and vote tommorow.

That cracks me up. Even UN gets it, but FF still can't see it.

 

[Kashta]

Yes there was joking around. Kash said that the jokes were making her laugh, and I didn't see any jokes. It's one thing for the posts to make her laugh, but the fact that she directly called them jokes is what t my attention. Whether or not it is actually substantial, to me, has yet to be determined.

So there was joking around but no jokes? What? Am I missing some weird point about semantics here? I don't see how this could ever be determined to be something substantial...ever...

I like these two.

For what it's worth, I'm thinking Bally wanted to post but didn't have anything to say.

 

[Kashta]

Bally, I'm not sure what you're getting at since I clearly see some joking around early in the thread. Maybe you would care to share your interpretation of the first 12 or so posts before Kash's?

I don't particularly like the little nudge of support by DD there. Don't mean to imply a coordinated effort, I just find it to be a very convenient type of post without having to say much...



I agree, to an extent. Joke-votes are certainly an easy way for scum to hide...my problem with that is that being the first to vote entirely is not a very good thing to do if hiding is your intention. To me, there are too many scenarios that could "make sense" whether FF is innocent or guilty (very little of FF's game play makes sense from the standpoint from anyone but FF). WIFOM situations galore.

What I don't really agree with at all is your last statement. I don't see how that has any bearing whatsoever on FF's motives unless you are already making some pretty hefty assumptions.

I had a similar thought. Not that it's coordinated, just that DD tried to imply something without saying it. It's easy later for DD to attribute that to Bally instead of owning up to it herself.

Looking for scum in earnest and trying to project a scum vibe on some other player are completely different things. Too soon to tell just from this, though. For now, I think DD's just playing.

Aren't ya, DD?

 

[Fishfriend1]

Kashta, I answered UN's question. I thought I'd be completely pooped after working but turned out to still have a ton of energy and was able to keep up with/post on the thread. Tomorrow, on the other hand, is probably going to be very busy for me, since I have things to do tomorrow besides working and getting myself lynched (lol).