Mafia Game #4 The Play

Whoah, is this a new tactic? 'The fear and trembling tactic that I'm overlooking facts? I don't know what to do, I'm so afraid we might be wrong again, and even though CL seems very much guilty as most people agree, and the mafia is going to kill us all,?' (Going back and reading this, I'm shocked I didn't notice before how long you held back about CL.)

In light of what comes later, would this be considered an act, so you are continually underestimated? Are you trying to put fear into the community?

Curious, but why do you continue to point to irrelevant facts? Like the avatar labels, and such, it's the second time you've done it in the game, and we all know, it's meaningless. If this was court, I'd object state relevance to the game at hand. Is it a joke? Do you believe Ogre at this point is the Don? Are you trying to draw something out of him? Are you trying to draw something out of the rest of us?I point to things like that, because thats how my mind works...I can't help it, and it was a joke, ..Am I not allowed to crack jokes?..I happen to be a sarcastic person, I like witty things, I thought I was being witty...Maybe I was the only one who thought it funny...

Is this like the second time you've pointed out that people need to think things through, or be serious, because we're headed for trouble? But really don't do that yourself? Have you already put your list together by now, and you are trying to prepare the mafia into a false sense of security, by making them think you're crouching in fear and that they've won or something, before you hit them with your suspicion??

The more I go back reading for clues, the more I find I don't understand anything at all about your play style, and it seems very NOT straight played, presents no facts - in fact, it presents NEGATIVE fact. You seem later, so much more intelligent then this - this has to be an act, or you have really wheeled people. And based on these posts... there's nothing of any real determinative value in these posts! Help me out here? Have I missed your clue by now?

The only names dropped so far have been Ogre, MadCrawdad, DD as a response to misreading, CL, because he's the word of the day by now, and me, nothing knew. Where are the clues that will lead me to everyone else who will later be found on the list?

I'm simply AMAZED someone can get so far in the community esteem/trust without presenting any real FACTS! And being wrong several times.

And I still have to say, that I am cracking up laughing at you...
 
I can't see how corylover survives the night. For what its worth I think he's either mafia or innocent lol....by which I mean, he's either mafia, or playing so badly as an innocent that he has made himself 100% guitly, and either way we have to lynch him.
oh btw I vote corylover

Coler raises suspicion - yet again. 'Corey's guilty, we better lynch him. Even if he's innocent, he's such a bad player, we still better lynch him.' Innocense as a possibility is apparently not a concern. Classic mafiaso - get a person lynched, innocent or not. *lol*
 
This is post 477.

Obviously, that is exactly what I have said?..thats what makes me nervous the most about you, you are an influential player, whether you are using your influence for bad or good, again, i do not know..you asked for suspects, I gave one, and I gave some thoughts....I did not say either way..I just gave both sides of the story on my feelings for the people I named...I had intended to do it for every player, just ran out of time for that post..

A line by line repeat (you'll all have to go read the post for yourself, it's too long and hm, red fonts and such in specific places...) of defenses. Which don't really move anyone forward, whatsoever. Where is all of this context and content? Again, you simply as above, just repeat everything he just said back to you. Is it really Ogre giving us the clue, and you keep pointing us back to him or something? But then, would you do that and accuse him of being the Don as well?

You say, "you asked for suspects, I gave one, and I gave some thoughts... I did not say either way." Again. I don't understand. Either way to WHAT? Guilt, or innocent? Mafia or innocent? US or THEM?!?! The pronouns and vague content here are both amazing and alarming. *lol* Anyway, it seems to me if someone was listed as YOUR SUSPECT it means because you DO think of them as one way or another, or you wouldn't have mentioned them? But that's just a complete guess, because I don't understand that line at all. I don't know if I've ever seen a trail of no-logic to be seen in one player's game up to a point. Are you avoiding it? Why?

Again you are so caught up on Ogre and those who "are an influential player" so where is this list of names that doesn't look anything like what it would later, come from? I'm beginning to wonder if you haven't figured it out yet, maybe it's a lightbulb moment you deduce later, because I can't follow you from these accusations, to your later accusations... er maybe it's me too though. :headshake2:
 
Hooked Newbie just hit on the fact that you're posting style has been... well, scary. Very true. I begin to wonder now, if you hadn't been so lucky with one hit on your list being correct, how anyone could have believed you. You are so fickle. You are so timid. You are so uninformative. You've been half wrong. When I left what I call clues, they looked more like... "gee I have SO much paperwork to do." and "the people never stop coming" and dropped hints like "do no harm" and words like "curing". (And even then not one person got it.) So I'm not sure if you realize how well these so-called clues go over...

Mee-mee's become the rage these days. It was bound to happen, with voting inconsistency.

Thank you very much for calling me names, All I can say to you at this point, because you are becoming somewhat annoying , why don't you focus on someone else, wasn't that your primary complaint with me?..Whatever, NJ, you know clues are not very helpful, then, why don't you stop looking, what your doing right now, is not helping any one, leastof all, not even you...If you don't want to vote my list, don't, i am not going to beg, plead, or wheel and deal, if you have a mind of your own use it, vote for who you wish, ..Its that simple, but You keep insinuating, several things about me, and I am starting to wonder, How much, is game playing, and how much is you being mean..You can only push so far, and to be honest, you have gotten to that point with me, you aren't being helpful, informative ect, right now, just mean, and negative to me. Infact most of what I have seen at this point, has been insults masked but j/k, and lol's...

now, I am curious to see what the mafia does this time around..As far as i can tell, i agree with JL, I think they are more confused then the townies, ...
 
lol wow neon you've been very busy. ur a reg nancy drew( i heard it was a good movie). Rock on NJ!! you're making the game fun again
 
I just want to say, that IDO NOT WANT TO VOTE FOR CORYLOVER i want to change my vote for coler, to be lynched. I can not say why now, But If I could get you all to vote with me, I will put my game life on this, I am almost 100% sure he is mafia, and I think, he may be the don. You can lynch me if I am wrong.

I strongly suggest you watch hooked newbie as well.

The mystery happens. I suppose she has put together what some of us were inkling about... but CL was pretty much toast, so she's backed out her vote for him and now dives after Coler. I suppose at this point, it's all very clear????

But it's not, because now it's all hush hush. "I just want to say" but nothing really said, no reason. "I can not say why now, but if I could get you all to vote with me..." Wow, trust on a leap of so far inaccuracies, barking up trees no one else seems that concerned about, rambling about pretty much nothing (avatar labels?!) or old news, good ol Pete's roleplay, and now you are sure he is mafia, and probably the don.

Well if you've agreed with my previous quotes of his, that he throws people under the bus whether or not innocent, comes out accusing from nowhere with little reasoning - then why is it you are not allowed to tell us you simply came to that conclusion.

Has all of the past been an act, acting unsure, acting timid, confused, and now you plan to roll out with confidence that you would bet your life on? And out of nowhere, we are instructed to watch Hooked Newbie. WHY? Is this also a secret??

Now normally, someone would come along to point out that usually, only the MAFIA do things like "uh oh, so and so is Mafia I bet." And things like "it's so obvious!" Without giving reason. I guess it's a secret. I'm beginning to think the clue is secret too!

By the way, why do you not want to vote for Corey Lover? Why have you consistently not believed he was mafia? The town disregards you, and votes for him, and behold, he IS mafia. Are you wrong for the third something time now?

Should the town let someone decide for them, who won't even give them the decency of explaining why they have cancelled their vote in the first place? I don't think most of us are allowed that luxury.

So this is a quetion I would like you to fix. Why did you change your vote. Did you truly have a feeling, that Corey Lover was innocent? Or did you not feel threatened by him, or felt he was of use to you, so you wanted him to stay on longer?

But anyway, here you and I actually meet. *lol* In review, according to Ogre's thoughts on the movements of a Don, according to YOUR thoughts, my haunches, his gameplay, it gives me strong reason to believe that he is the don, and the greater threat at this point. More about him may be revealed later.
 
woah !

left field !

I'll take that on the chin and say you are either 100% mafia or just very, very misguided.

my vote stays where it is.

I think most of us felt this way. Usually a last minute vote change is very suspicious, especially when the town feels they have a good hit (and they did!) But you aren't considered with suspicion really, but more like... what? Like, are you playing the same game WITH us? Did my dog tear a chapter out of the novel? Am I this stupid? I mean, I thought I wasn't a genius, but where have I been? (Course I was most definitely not on MY game, but most people showed some surprise.)

Like I said, most innocents would be cautious of making a huge leap and begging the town to move with you, at the end of the night. It's usually a mafia trait, not saying it is here, but it's really unusual, and really unusual when it is refused to be explained to the townie's.
 
whats with the whole ma... stuff?..

Hmmm... I realize you were busy, but you later say if one uses the Internet tool properly it's all there for you to easily see. Again, this is sort of admitting a misread, or a mistake, that you MISSED all of Corey Lover throwing himself in front of EVERYONE, mafia and innocent, in a desperate attempt he later admitted, to attempt to save himself. Maybe you were busy and didn't catch it? (Not too busy to lineate line by line responses to Ogre and MadCrawdad...)

But again, is it an act? 'Confused? Missed the boat? Someone explain it to me, etc.' It comes pretty soon after this boost of confidence that says you're almost 100% sure of yourself, and that you would bet your gamelife on it. I swear, if I behaved this erratic, and confused, and fickle the town would have lynched ME in 5 minutes. Instead, last time they took 2 days to do it. *lol* I cannot imagine how it is you can break so many previously held rules of thumb! It's really remarkable.
 
It may take me some time to digest all your posts, NJ. I'm not gonna ignore them, but I'm gonna address HN first.

As stated above…. I voted for NOLA on the first day regrettably, but that was only after switching my vote from Mee-mee after DD did when it was clear that our votes wouldn’t matter. Read my posts at least please. DD and I had MM pegged, but everyone was split between CL & Nola… I read wrong and chose Nola….

More than a single line agreement might help the town out a bit more. Don’t just throw something out there agreeing with the latest post. And truthfully, I’d like to see your opinions. You seem smart, but I haven’t really seen any substantive posts from you.

Well, HN, my one line agreement was just that. I was just communicating to Judge why you might still be a good Mafia suspect. But please note that I did not put you on my list. I still do not have a solid 3rd Mafia candidate. The timing of your vote on that 1st night made me suspect you. And if you were really trying to ally yourself with DD, you would have casted your vote for CL as she did. So I've not ruled you out as Mafia either, but then a lot of ppl fit into that category.:)

As far as being smart, I haven't claimed it. As far as my posts not being substantial, I have however posted my observations and opinions as I am able to post. I think it's more quality than quantity. I did try to rally votes for CL on night 1. I did point out my suspicions on CL, mee-mee, and KOTD on day 2. I have tried to put up a case explaining why I think KOTD is Mafia. And today I will vote for KOTD or Coler, whomever I decide is most likely to be the Mafia Don. And I will post more observations and opinions as I get them.
 
Wait this isn't the clue is it? Corey Lover's "ma...." post?? It seems like that would be really obvious... or something everyone would completely miss, and would be no benefit to us Townies. Remember, no one even got my "do no harm" and "curing" and "altruistic" hints about me being the doctor...
 
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