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40g Aggressive fish set up.

Discussion in 'Freshwater Newbie Forum' started by JoeMamma, Jan 8, 2018.

  1. JoeMamma

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    Just bought 40g tank nothing else. My ultimate goal is to have ONE(if possible two/three) aggressive/predator/ carnivorous fish or whatever they call it nowadays. And I will feed it live fish. That’s why I am saying one fish since I know it’ll be hard to have a predator filled a bunch of prey in the same tank. Any suggestions. I still need to buy everything else and I’m willing to spend up $500 and more if need be. I’m no rush get this tank set up today nor tomorrow. I know it’s a slow process and they’re aren’t just animals I can flush down the toilet at any time . So what’s the best fish and then what filters/Heater/ etc will I need. Yes I’m newbie. I was gonna go for a 10g but I was being told that it’s much easier to maintain a larger tank but at a higher cost
     
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    Choosing the predator will be essential to an appropriate setup. A 40 limits you--many predators are big fish that won't do well in a small tank long term.

    Outside of that, I'd probably plan on setting it up with a sump. that allows you larger water volume, massive amounts of filtration potential, and you will be able to stash equipment out of site.
     
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    JM- Welcome!

    As much as I like 40g breeder size tanks, that size is going to limit your stocking choices as OrionGirl suggested.

    Also, why the focus on wanting to feed it live fish? Feeder fish can introduce parasites and disease into the tank, where a quality pellet food will not and will typically be more nutritionally balanced.
     
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    Yep. ;)
     
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    I guess I'll have to ask what kind of fish you envision as a "predator"? Most fish will eat much smaller fish & even so-called "micropredators" eat live worms, insects or snails. Having fish that MUST be fed only live food can be difficult to keep. & as FF said, every time you get feeders it can be a disaster! Pellets or flakes are easier & healthier but live or frozen foods can be a fun treat.

    Personally I find leaf fish kind of boring, they don't swim around much. A bite of food & they're done, back to hanging out at the tank top. I guess it depends on what you want your tank to be, tell us more about what you want.
     
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    I concur with the previous posts. If live fish are a must for your set-up, you may consider raising your own. I know people who've done it successfully with livebearers. Will mean more equipment, fish and work but you can eliminate the feeder-introduced parasite issue.

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    After thinking about it for a while I’ve decided to drop the predator idea since it is my first tank. So I’ll give with something coloful and active. What do plants/fish do you suggest to start out with. I don’t want to risk killing anything, so I want to start small and slow and as I learn I’ll add more.
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    There are tons of colorful/active fish that are well suited for a 40. If it were me, I'd dry start plants (which will mean getting an appropriate light), crypts and pogostemon helfeiri downoi. 3-4 inches of a decent plant substrate to support the root feeders, rock work only. Once that was going, add a canister filter, fishless cycle, then add a ~20 dwarf rainbows, 3-4 panda garra,and call it good.

    Well...not really. I'd likely pack it full of crypts and drop in a trio of betta patoti, but that wouldn't really be a very active tank.
     
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    Just do what you like with it...

    You likely won't be happy with something that someone else has chosen for you.. nor will you be happy with something that is above your skill level or is more work than you want to maintain.
     
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    Joe, your above idea is a better plan to start with IMO. Another thing to think about, do you want fish that are more interactive with you? They type that fly up and face-plant the glass to see you?

    Something that is colorful, will do that and still be super feisty AND predator like are tiger barbs. Lots of barbs will fit that bill.
     

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