a crawfish ??

back from work

The larger of the ones seem fine.. the smallest one that was acting lathergic at lunch time.. when I returned hjome from work was aginst the filter pump tub.. said **** he died too.. bt i tried to scoop him out thinking it was deaad and being sucked into it.. he just swam off.. a little dazed at first... but was able to swim away.. he is still slow moving though...
I am going to try to not feed them tonight and see what happens... I will cycle 25% of the water out too.
 
Originally posted by Wippit Guud
I am now officially trademarking the word 'aquabatic', as it's not listed in dictionary.com - go me for new words!
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atta Gawd!!! :dance

Duck.... have you cycled this tank before adding the plants and fish? If you have, have you tested the levels (pH, ammonia, nitrate, etc.)?
 
NO!

I had never heard of cycling.. I thoguth it meant to run the aquiruim with water and a filter in it for 5 hours before adding fish... I did do this... (its what my book says to do) but it mentions nothing about water condiion and nitrates and ph and any of that.
Nor did the local fish store man.. welp I think I changed out about 3 gallons or so of water tonight... they seemed to ju,p back to life almost instantly... I swear one was doing back flips after this. well not quiet.. but he did move faster up and down the tnak then Ihave ever seen them do. I plan to probly change out the water as much as possible. I work at walmart and didn't see the biospira stuff.. I will check agian tommorrow.
Now I am wondering, is it better to change out a gallon or so everynight.... should i try more then that or should I do like I've read 25% once a wekk or something like that all at once?

Also I have a burning question would I have been doing better just to get the lake water and sand from my lake instead of using city water and artifical gravel.. I actually wanted to use the sand from the lake but my girlfriend like the semi polished peagravel we are using.



Thanks agian everyone.. I think my fish are doing better..
 
Well, there are numerous threads in this forum concerning cycling...I highly recommend you read as much of them as you can and do a search on google for 'aquarium cycling'. This is basic information 'every' aquarist should know.

Never use water from a lake or pond in an aquarium. It may contain any number of nasties that are very undesirable in an aquarium.(diseases/pathogens, algae spores, predatory insect larvae, pesticides, agricultural run-off, fertilizers, etc, etc)...same goes for sand...you just don't know for sure what may be in the sand.

As far as doing water changes right now, do daily water changes of around 10-15% to keep toxic levels of ammonia to a minimum. I would have done a 50% water change initially, then the daily 10-15% changes.

Keep us updated.
 
You won't find biospira at WalMart. Not even every fish store sells it right now as the setup cost is pricey. They need a special refrigerator. And don't be fooled by the other bacteria in a bottle products. Chances are they will not work. The best thing for you to buy is a test kit. Use this to test for ammonia and nitrites. If those are detectable then a water change is needed. If you can't get ahold of those then do a small water change often at teh beginnign liek you mentioned. Luckily a smaller tank is easy to change water in. All you have to add is some water conditioner. It should take about 5 minutes. Good luck with that.
 
dethjam316 - Do you understand the concept of threads? Post are presented serially in chronologic order as they are entered.

If you review the thread, you might notice that the origator of this thread, duck, has stated in the post immediatelly preceeding the one of mine in question (which appears to upset you so much) that he had stocked his tank by the inch per gallon rule, or rather, by his mistaken understanding of that guideline. My post was simply an immediate response to his, expanding on the so called guideline and what it would allow or disallow in his setup. Is that clearer and more comprehensible to you? I did not then (or ever) support the use of that guideline. In fact I made a point of labeling the guideline as "so called" to imply my disapproval, but perhaps that subtlety went over your head. If this does not clear up your misunderstanding, please repost and I will continue trying to help you understand.
 
everyone has moved on to helping duck, while you're continuing to attack me, making yourself look like rude and spiteful in the process. and i'll leave it at that.

issue at hand: i second the need for a test kit. adding a large number of fish will profoundly effect the conditions within the tank, and the likely ammonia spike probably claimed some victims. again, adding plants from a lake without quarantining them is a major risk, as well, and you may introduce diseases into the tank, though i suspect the former is the cause in question.
 
went to a diffren't store today

I went to a diffren't store today... welp actually I went to 4 diffren't fish stores.. they all basically told me the same thing that the place I went was a bad place and that all the advice I was told seems to be either a bit off or blatently wrong to make a sale.. I searched for the biospria and none had it yet some had some other products for this but I decided against it.
One of the nicer stores (with some girls my age) seemed to care alot about there pets and know an aweful lot.. they asked me to bring them a sample of my water back... so I did and they tested it for free and recomended a fizzy tab to correct the ph and one for the amonia levels. They told me to just drop it in and tommorrow come back and they would tes thte water for me agian. I asked how fast the stuff worked and they said almost instantly... and I told her I was wanting a little crab. She told me that she wouldn't sell me a crab until we were positive we had the water taken care of first... so I got a water palm and some water onion plants and a couple of small hand made clay pots for the tank... one was really small and the other looked like a water piture the backside actually had a hole in it to make a cave for fish to hide in and get out of the turbulence... They look really neat and bring some cool color and detail to my tank.

It was good to know the employee was smart helpful and careing I liked the fact she said she wasn't going to sell me the crab until we worked on getting the water issue straight. *she was not rude or mean at all) I have found my new LFS
 
my tank

my tank has 5 tiger barbs 2 snails seems all is well. I am really wanting a crab or something for the bottom of the tank..
If I was to get one it would be the absolute smallest one they had..

at the LFS I fell in love with they had a tank with a big number of crabs as well as some really pretty black shark looking fish that had orange on there backs.. (don't remember looking at there names) but the fish swam near the bottom too and sometom went down to the gravel actualy touching the crabs.. they seemed to not even notice the fish.

If I read more or some other tell me it is a bad idea then I will probly aviod getting one.. the lady at the fish store told me they would be fine with the tiger barbs... and this was the same lady that gave me free water medicine and talked to me for about 30 minutes about my tank and all the information about fish and plants I could soak up. I know she wasn't trying to make the 1.99 off me for the crabs becuase she could have easily sold it to me today. and the fact she tested my water free told me she would do it agian and gave me the stuff to fix it so my other fish I baught somewhere else wouldn't die.
 
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