once again, an uninformed statement, all of these are ADF and have been identified as such, thanks for the compliments about the frogs.
the other reason i can tell you that these are definitley not ACF is that the clawed frogs are not sold here, after calling several LFS to ensure that they had ADF's and asking about the disease, i was informed that no shops here sell ACF due to their large size and low popularity.
ADF can look very similar to ACF as well as ADF have up to 30 different kinds of skin patterns, thats from a book i picked up on freshwater frogs, ACF also have some key indicators, one of which is that you can distinctly find the claws no matter what age the frog is, all you do is grab the foot and you feel it.
i read all this info and had it confirmed by my favorite LFS, texas tropical and marine, its a small spot, but every person in there is very well versed in their specialty. I think alot of the misconception about stores sellin ACF's comes from a small group of people who possibly just wanted frogs and did not specify.
generally selling a different species of any kind of livestock is horrible business, but in this case I think that the differences in the 2 are enough that the consumer should know their pet...
I also want to note that for a lfs to sell ACF in place of ADF could only be plausable for a short abount of time considering ACF get too big to be mistaken as ADF very quickly.
hope this info helps a little bit, ill post more pics if i catch em doing anything funny or cool.
Glad to hear that! The two are regularly seen mixed in big chains, which is why all the warnings have been posted. I am aware of the similarities, don't worry about it, I have a strong H. curp. hybrid myself. Good luck with the new froggies.
Ah, no worries, just trying to clear up some of the misconception, i guess i dont classify the big chain stores as LFS, more as a last resort horrible place for anything but supplies, and not even great at that, but yeah i would imagine places like petco and petsmart would stock things incorrectly...
when it comes to fish in particular, small box LFS is the only way to go, paying slightly more for fish and or supplies is worth supporting the folks who know their business.
thanks again for all the comments on the frogs, gonna be concentrating on ym 10 gallon heavy planted tank next, lookout for the photo thread for that one.
It is Lovely how people can make an identification based on a simple position!
If you are not sure then don't reply!
Please give people interested in proper info a break.
These little frogs can get bloat too. Watch out for frog and tadpole bites...this food is not stable. Plus your fish can be affected too.
When very young, African dwarf frogs can be confused with African clawed frogs, Xenopus laevis, but may be distinguished by examining their forelimbs. The African dwarf frog has both webbed forelimbs and hindlimbs, while X. laevis has webbing on the hind limbs only. African dwarf frogs are usually only an inch and a half in body length when fully grown. Females are generally larger than males.
I once had an ACF and kept it by itself. It really was an interesting frog and it could eat INCREDIBLE amounts of food. They can be fun pets but not if kept with your fish. It grew to be quite large and we were actually quite fond of him.
just to clear this up if your post was aimed towards me for making an identification by a simple position, terror.. i wasnt making an identification. just stating that it kind of does look like one in that position. i only said it because of how someone said "yep, its an ACF" and poster was quick to correct him. just saying that the persons identification could have stemmed from something.. something like that frog actually kind of does look like an ACF from the way hes positioned in that pic along with the lighting.
its also a lil funny how there was discussion about how sometimes the frogs get mixed up in LFSs and how this person and that person knew this or that and blabablabla.. then the poster got a pic of 1 of his ADFs that actually looked like it couldve been an ACF just bc of how the pic was taken. i wudnt ID something from a dimly lighted picture that i was unsure of.
no biggie, sheesh. just giving my 2 cents on the thread and situation.