angelfish biotope setup

[aquascaper93]

ok im going to try to ask this question again but smaller.
im trying to setup an angelfish biotope but everytime i can only find pics of them in the wild they tipicly dont hang around plants just driftwood, so i was wondering if anybody new diferent. also i was wondering if discus would eat the angel fry because i was hoping to spawn the angels well thank you and hope to here from you soon.

 

[Turbosaurus]

Hi, I have some good news and bad news.

Unfortunately, Everything eats fry (and eggs) including discus. You really can't raise angel fry in a tank with anything else but their parents. You can always pull the eggs and raise them yourself in another tank. If the parents aren't with them you can have BN plecos and shrimp and dwarf corries- just make sure to move the angel fry back out before they get big enough to eat their tank mates.

I would be more worried about your discus being terrorized by a pair of angelfish parents trying to protect their eggs and the surrounding territory. Better if the eggs don't make it, or are removed. Angelfish - especially when guarding spawns can be insanely aggressive.

Unfortunately, you will have to pick one.
Do you want a south american native biotope? or
do you want a planted tank? or
do you want to breed angels?
You may be able to do two out of three...

We can't make the South American waterways different than they are. They are dark, covered by the jungle overhead and so stained with tannis from fallen branches and leaves that very little light gets through. They are dark places and aquatic plants don't grow in dark places.

The good news is you CAN have a beautiful planted tank with very happy discus and angels. If you want a planted tank, set up a planted tank. If you don't like the look of a SA biotope, don't do it. Thats the beauty of this hobby

 

[Dwarf Puffers]

Do you already have the discus?

 

[saram521]

This was very well put and I agree with all of it 100%. I've read more than once that it's not really the best idea to mix angels and discus, because angels are more aggressive fish in everything they do, esp. during feeding time. Discus, when put up against angels, are more shy and will get a little outcompeted for food. If you put the discus in the tank first for maybe a month or so by themselves and let them acclimate to their surroundings, they'll feel more confident to act naturally by the time the angels are added. I would also try and match the body size of the discus to the body size of the angels you'll be getting. I have a feeling young discus wouldn't do too well around adult angels...

Hi, I have some good news and bad news.

Unfortunately, Everything eats fry (and eggs) including discus. You really can't raise angel fry in a tank with anything else but their parents. You can always pull the eggs and raise them yourself in another tank. If the parents aren't with them you can have BN plecos and shrimp and dwarf corries- just make sure to move the angel fry back out before they get big enough to eat their tank mates.

I would be more worried about your discus being terrorized by a pair of angelfish parents trying to protect their eggs and the surrounding territory. Better if the eggs don't make it, or are removed. Angelfish - especially when guarding spawns can be insanely aggressive.

Unfortunately, you will have to pick one.
Do you want a south american native biotope? or
do you want a planted tank? or
do you want to breed angels?
You may be able to do two out of three...

We can't make the South American waterways different than they are. They are dark, covered by the jungle overhead and so stained with tannis from fallen branches and leaves that very little light gets through. They are dark places and aquatic plants don't grow in dark places.

The good news is you CAN have a beautiful planted tank with very happy discus and angels. If you want a planted tank, set up a planted tank. If you don't like the look of a SA biotope, don't do it. Thats the beauty of this hobby

 

[jpappy789]

Hi, I have some good news and bad news.

Unfortunately, Everything eats fry (and eggs) including discus. You really can't raise angel fry in a tank with anything else but their parents. You can always pull the eggs and raise them yourself in another tank. If the parents aren't with them you can have BN plecos and shrimp and dwarf corries- just make sure to move the angel fry back out before they get big enough to eat their tank mates.

I would be more worried about your discus being terrorized by a pair of angelfish parents trying to protect their eggs and the surrounding territory. Better if the eggs don't make it, or are removed. Angelfish - especially when guarding spawns can be insanely aggressive.

Unfortunately, you will have to pick one.
Do you want a south american native biotope? or
do you want a planted tank? or
do you want to breed angels?
You may be able to do two out of three...

We can't make the South American waterways different than they are. They are dark, covered by the jungle overhead and so stained with tannis from fallen branches and leaves that very little light gets through. They are dark places and aquatic plants don't grow in dark places.

The good news is you CAN have a beautiful planted tank with very happy discus and angels. If you want a planted tank, set up a planted tank. If you don't like the look of a SA biotope, don't do it. Thats the beauty of this hobby

Agreed! An actual SA river biotope is much different than people expect, at least for most waterways.

 

[Star_Rider]

if you want a biotope tank then you need to study the area.

while angels tend to hide in dark relatively unplanted waters with lots of root tangles. you can still have a planted biotope tank with driftwood roots and some plants. remember the edge water will get some light and will harbor plants.
often the dark areas with root tangles are the breeding areas of both the discus and Angels. they tend to spawn during the rains which flood areas. these are generally out of the way where some solitude is found.
you can have the best of both by growing plants indigenous to the SA Plains(Orinoco Valley)

FYI, Discus are often kept with Angels..but these are usually adults of both.
the big problems come when trying to keep juvenile discus with juvenile angels, which tend to be more aggressive at feeding time eating the food before the discus can get to it.

many discus are just as aggressive when adults as their bodies tend to be larger than the angels.

 

[aquascaper93]

well thaks for the info
imactually goin more for a biotope with just angels and some cories maybe a bn pleco
im not really goin for a planted tank for this one but i was wondering since angels need flat surfaces for thier eggs what about some anubias placed coser to the surface of the water yeah i dont really think im gonna go with a discus in there just angels. iwas planning on using root like driftwood, sand, and oak leaves. again thanks