Betta what is wrong!?

Is it possible that he got a big rush of water directly on him/near him when you did the water change?...That kind of downward force can really mess them up for a few days...Dont feed for a couple of days and see if he improves...

Beeker: What would lead you to belive that this is a curable condition? It could be a myriad of things, non of which has been properly diagnosed. It could be as simple as old age...In my experience, when they start going like that they are not long for this world.
 
I'm hijacking the post a little:
garlic: can is be fed straight up or should it be in oil? Could I just cut a hunk off a clove and pop it in the tank?

clove oil: Is a general anesthetic, so it would slow down the outside and through oral consumption the inside right? Bettas still do use their gills too. Wouldn't it work? I thought the same about hte breathing at first, but then I thought some more and it seems like you could still use it.

I am looking at it from a technical standpoint, not humane.
 
OH NOW who is raining on my parade!!! :)
 
FisheyLisa said:
I'm hijacking the post a little:
garlic: can is be fed straight up or should it be in oil? Could I just cut a hunk off a clove and pop it in the tank?

clove oil: Is a general anesthetic, so it would slow down the outside and through oral consumption the inside right? Bettas still do use their gills too. Wouldn't it work? I thought the same about hte breathing at first, but then I thought some more and it seems like you could still use it.

I am looking at it from a technical standpoint, not humane.
Lisa,
I'm going to start a new thread about this as I don't think this is a good place. I mean, he's not gone yet and maybe we shouldn't hijack his help thread.

Roan
 
On behalf of Palmbreeze:

Tap water is high in KH and GH - comes from a limestone aquafir in our small town. THe betta looks healthy - except can not swim downwards. No protruding scales, eyes look normal, and is fairly active - meets me when I go near the tank. The color is even good.

The filter is on the left side of tank so water movement is very little if any on the right side of the tank.

There was a case of ICH, but has been solved - before she noticed these issues.

I too will try to post better pics - it is difficuly because of the location of the tank and the angle to get the betta.

The other betta is perfectly normal in all aspects - the one on the left side.

Note - from when I seen her do water changes, she does dump the water on the right side of the tank (where this particular betta resides). Will it be better to siphon the water back into the tank instead of "dumping" it back in? How does this (if it is the case) affect the betta?

As for eating - I have no idea - because I do not feed it.

Thanks!!!
 
you can also carefully/slowly dump it down the inside of the tank, if syphoning doesn't work.

I forgot/misread you had another betta in the tank. That is good, it doesn't seem to be contagious. Keep up the ultra clean conditions and you'll be doing the best for the fish you can. good luck!!
 
Better Pics

Whole Tank


Healthy Betta


Pic 1 of unhealthy betta


Pic 2 of unhealthy betta


Sorry for the hard water spots on the tank - didnt realize they were there until I took the pics :duh:

I had a Black Skirt Tetra (Gymnocorymbus ternetzi) that had swim bladder disease. It lasted at least 3 years with it. It has since past. My first diagnosis was SB disease - but I know nothing of bettas. My guess is the thrusting of water hurt it - IMO.

More notes, if I chase him, he can swim down but floats right back to the top.

But I will leave it to people who know bettas best.

If this is a swim bladder problem - will he survive? What is best to do if he does not recover???

Thanks

Aries
 
I haven't tried it on a fish other than a Comet, but when she had a swim bladder problem I gave her extra room to swim and she was able to work it out. I realize that Bettas are entirely different fish, but I thought it couldn't hurt to share the idea and experience.
 
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