Beware!!!

I've been doing it ever since until now... i learned my lesson... plus, i only take out a portion of the water and not all of it so i figured that the concentration wouldn't be fatal...
 
Red_Terror said:
Hey i do trust them, they are one of the best in SD :thm: they also carries more selctions and offer more rare fishes too...

You treat it with PRIME? I haven't tried that, what is it anyways?
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I'm confused, do you not use a dechlorinator with your water? Prime is a dechlorinator that removes ammonia and binds chlorine and chloramine into a form that is harmless to the fish.

Roan
 
Roan Art said:
I'm confused, do you not use a dechlorinator with your water? Prime is a dechlorinator that removes ammonia and binds chlorine and chloramine into a form that is harmless to the fish.

Roan
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I do use dechlorinator but then i use NOVAQUA... i haven't used PRIME... but the way that you've described how prime works, it now have caught my attention and maybe i will look for it next time i'm in my LFS(like tomorrow) hahaa... thanks!
 
echoofformless said:
My girlfriend is constantly berating me for overdosing the dechlorinator, maybe she'll read this thread and finally see just why I do it.
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maybe she should, hey i always explain all the technical stuff with my girlfriend... she tends to listen and eventhough she might not get it all at once, it does not hurt to let them know to why you are doing what your doing... it is better to be safe than sorry...
 
Roan Art said:
Since I inject CO2, I test my tap water weekly for KH and pH values, so I just run the whole she-bang at the same time. I always get a 1.0 reading for ammonia.

The chlorine test I have is made by Red Sea. You can buy them singularily at Big Als http://www.bigalsonline.com/catalog/product.xml?product_id=19503;category_id=3093 for 4.99$

I *always* test my tank(s) immediately after a water change. That way if there is something amiss I can catch it before it becomes a real problem and dose extra Prime if need be.

Holly,
Most of the dechlorinators have instructions on the back as to how much ammonia/chlorine/chloramine they can remove/bind per dosage. Since I use a Python and dose the entire tank anyhow, that's probably why I haven't had a problem. Just lucky.

Roan
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WOW :eek: this really sounded like a review in chemistry, pH and kH, acids and base JK... Thanks ROAN!!! So, red sea it is... i will definitely look for that stuff...
 
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Red_Terror said:
WOW :eek: this really sounded like a review in chemistry, pH and kH, acids and base JK... Thanks ROAN!!! So, red sea it is... i will definitely look for that stuff...
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Nod. The Aquarium Pharm ammonia test cannot distinguish between ammonia and chloramine. That's why my tap water reads 1.0 ammonia. Make note that the Red Sea Chlorine test does not detect chloramine, just chlorine.

If I find a test kit that checks both chlorine and chloramine, and I do remember seeing one somewhere, I'll post it for you.

Hopefully someone else will know which one it is.

Roan
 
Thanks again ROAN... chlorine is the most impotant thing to test for anyways because it really kills quick(also the other stuff)... if it weren't for that fish store guy, my fry could have fried to death literally speaking... it could have burned both their gills and skin *sheesh*... i now have treated water sitting in a 5 gallon bucket for my next water change... i will monitor my fish more closely for any weird behaviors while in the process :look: ...
 
Red_Terror said:
Thanks again ROAN... chlorine is the most impotant thing to test for anyways because it really kills quick(also the other stuff)... if it weren't for that fish store guy, my fry could have fried to death literally speaking... it could have burned both their gills and skin *sheesh*... i now have treated water sitting in a 5 gallon bucket for my next water change... i will monitor my fish more closely for any weird behaviors while in the process :look: ...
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Actually, both are just as deadly. Chloramine is chlorine bound with ammonia and most municipalities are switching to chloramine (more efficient, I believe) to make sure the water is safe for consumption. To be safe, test the tap for both ammonia AND chlorine. If you get a positive on ammonia, then there is chloramine in the water and chances are that they are no longer using chlorine.

Roan
 
Ok I am really confused now. i use Aqura Pharm ammonia test and I get 0ppm out of my tap water but I know for sure from the local water systems report that they use chlorimines at an average rate of 1.5ppm. I am also confused on the fact that many people claim that after dechlorinating water with chlorimines present that you should be able to read a positve for ammonia and I cant get a positve reading doing that either. Also the manual that comes with the test kit says that it is the salicylate based test that reads total ammonia that includes ammonia and ammonium together witch is what Amaquel and Prime do to ammonia is convert it to ammonium supposedly less toxic. That beign said IMHO I dont see how testing tap water for ammonia will tell you if you have chlorimines present thats not the results I have gotten.
 
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