bio spira question

russjet

russjet

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i have ordered some biospira from US wont be dispatched till next week when new stock gets in.

question is if my little neon nemo doesnt make it can i add bio spira and feed the tank ammonia to be sure that it works before introducing a full bio load to the tank

my concern is that it is travelling to uk and even with poor weather here it may still die off a certain amount have ordered enough to do my tank three times over to help ensure enough bacteria make the trip

i dont want a fully stocked tank that then needs to be cycled with the stresses on the fish

so i am hoping i can add biospira (if nemo doesnt survive) to establish a fishless cycle.

if he does make it and i add the biospira then how quickly should i introduce the rest of the fish in to the tank, suggestions are that you put in the entire desired population isnt it

i am hoping that the white spot will be a thing of the past by the time the order arrives (probably about 10 days from now)

is this an unrealistic hope, there is only one fish in the tank with two or three little white spots on him
 
The bio-spira will more or less instantly cycle the tank--you'll be able to add additional fish immediately. However--I wouldn't add anything until the tank has been healthy for at least 10 days, or you risk infecting the newly introduced fish.

If the neon dies before then, just leave the tank empty for the 10 days. Then dose with Bio-Spira according to the directions, and add the new fish. If you add a portion now, be sure to dose the tank again before introducing the remaining fish.
 
ok so a good plan of action is if he survives add a little and then put it in the fridge till 10 days after the spots have gone (would this be worth it as he would have been in the tank for nearly three weeks by the time the biospira arrives)

or if he dies wait ten days and then add it and the fish

i really hope he makes it cos then i will be obliged to get more neon tetras because they really are my favourite fish

i havent been able to find how long the spots stay on the fish for anywhere
(trying to work out my max time for getting on with stocking my tank.)

if he doesnt make it i will worry about getting more and i really want them in my tank

then i will also need a load of stocking suggestions

i want lots of fish (healthy ones) so think i only want fish that are under a couple of inches at maturity and i think they need to be neon compatible

with maybe either a school (maybe my neons to be) or one fish as centrepiece in the tank

i think i need fish as i am becoming forum obsessed and once it is up and running at full capacity i will be able to look at them instead of my computer all day(outside of washing cleaning and school runs that is
 
The ich life cycle is temperature dependent, but the important thing to realize is that the spots, once they drop off, they hatch within 3 days, and the released tomites must find a host within 24 hours or they die. So, if the neon dies, you'll know that all the cysts have hatched and the tomites died in 10 days. With a remaining host, you have to make sure that no more show up on the fish after the existing ones fall off (hence the need to treat consistantly for a minimum of 5 days after the last visible sing--I prefer going at least 10 days!).

Hope that helps.
 
Good idea to add ammonia and go through a test before adding your fishes, Bio-Spira has a limited shelf life and needs to be refridgerated. Marineland also stopped production so there hasn't been a new batch in awhile.

If the bottle of Bio-Spira is still good, you'll start to see nitrites after the first day and nitrates shortly afterwards. Basically, the whole cycling process should shouldn't take longer than 2-3 days. Normally, you add your full load at the same time as the bio-spira. In this case, add 2-5ppm of ammonia to simulate the desired load.
 
the bio spira is from a new batch that is due out on the 8/11/04 or should that be the other way round anyway due in stock next week.

it is kept cold with cold packs that are in the package when mailed apparently it needs to be stable so not above a certain temperature

the site that is sending it to me said via 'gunnie ' that it is ok at this time of year but wouldnt be happy in the summer in case of any delays on the way here.

this is why i am giving it a go and am ordering extra so i hope i will get enough viable bacteria

i am currently treating the tank at temperature of 86 and with salt added too for the white spot
 
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