Blue Ram Eggs

[Sevenchains]

My female blue ram just laid the largest clutch of eggs I have ever seen, and is eagerly defending them with her mate. Problem is, they didn't spawn in my breeding tank, OR where I expected them to. They did spawn on a huge piece of fake driftwood that dominates the center of my tank that can't be removed.

Typically, being the good ram parents that they are, they are behaving aggressively towards the other fish in the tank. I had slate in the tank I expected them to spawn on, while my breeding tank was cycling, but no such luck. The question is, should I try to remove the eggs and the parents to the breeding tank anyway, or should I leave them where they are at?

 

[Temo]

ok , i did have some experience,
dont remove the eggs and the pair, it will comfuse them
yes they will be very aggressive
by leaving the eggs where they are, it'll help your rams making choices and they will learn jow to parenting and defen for the eggs and the fry

and just leave nature/ their knowlege do the work, they will learn by theirself

 

[Sevenchains]

Thanks for the reply Temo! Your response really puts me at ease. Nice to know someone else has experienced success after this happened.

 

[Temo]

lol your wellcome.

 

[lymabean]

wow awesome! How agressive are they right now, since i want these guys. Are they like biting fins and ripping them or just chasing fish? MR kribs had to go since they were really beating up the fish in my tank. PLus, where are you located? I'd want to grab a pair once the beabies hatch.

 

[Sevenchains]

Hey Lymabean, unfortunately I am about as far away from NY as you can get. I live in Seattle, Washington. They are aggressive right now, but they haven't hurt anyone too badly yet, they mostly just patrol. The Ram on guard isn't willing to travel too far from the nest. They also leave my otocinclus and kuhli loaches alone. The only fish they pursue is my obese guppy which occasionally wanders into their territory, and my cherry barbs, who have unanimously decided they are less likely to get rammed on the other side of the tank.

 

[Temo]

well lymabean, they do not do much harm to the other fish,
they only chase other around, but if the other get too close to the eggs, they will just bit alittle bit,
but no harm at all
i keep mine with discus, and they are all ok, after one bite or two, my discus learned their lesson and staty away,
but when they are not spawning and taking care for the fry, they just swim around and look for food, for the next spawn,
it'll take a several times for them to learn, mine took about 15 times, but they still make mistakes, they justa ate the fry, but it's ok to me, cause i know they'll learn from their mistake. just let the fish do their things, and everythings will be ok, and you might end up with thousant of rams.

temo

 

[Temo]

Hey Lymabean, unfortunately I am about as far away from NY as you can get. I live in Seattle, Washington. They are aggressive right now, but they haven't hurt anyone too badly yet, they mostly just patrol. The Ram on guard isn't willing to travel too far from the nest. They also leave my otocinclus and kuhli loaches alone. The only fish they pursue is my obese guppy which occasionally wanders into their territory, and my cherry barbs, who have unanimously decided they are less likely to get rammed on the other side of the tank.

guppy can be anoying to the other fish you know.
and seven, it's ok if you see the eggs are gone when you look at the nest, they might move it to another spot to hatch, or the fry are some where near the nest that you cant see. but if your rams eat the eggs, they will spawn agian soon, mine spawn like crazy!

 

[Sevenchains]

I'm probably going to lose most of the eggs this time, since half of them have turned white already. Here's a picture of the proud parents, and the male defending the eggs.

 

[lili70]

I had 6 spawing from each pair of rams and the eggs always turn white the second day. I added RO water and lower the PH to 7.6 but still the same problem. It's not fungus, just white.
Anybody knows why ?
Thanks.
L