Blue Ram Question

justintoxicated

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Hi I don't know if this would be a good idea but I have been toying with teh idea of adding a blue ram to my 20G community.

Stocking
8 Galaxy Micro Rasbora
2 Celbe Rainbows
2 Papendetta Furcata (blue eye family as well)
3 Honey Gouramis (only 1 currently)
3 Otto's
Some Adult Mystery Snails.

I don't have any rocks but I do have driftwood and live plants.

Thing is I am adding crushed coral to the watter to keep my PH from crashing. Tt stays between 7.2 and 6.8 though even witht eh addition of crushed coral. Now Mystery Snails like Hard water and these guys like soft so I'm wondering if they are really compatable with what I already have.

Is this fish compatable? Do I need to do a GH test?
 
Yes, do a gH test. Rams not only like soft water, they require it. Also, I would get a pair, male and female.
 
it is about 223.5-238 (15 - 16 drops turns it test kit green) after a 50% water change, but my Ph does drop after the Co2 takes over. GH won't be affected by CO2 right?

Guess the answer is no I cannot keep them :( LFS has same water supply as well.
 
Depends on the ram. I do belive captive-bred ones can do well in hard water.

As far as I know, KH (which is a component of GH) is not actually used up by CO2. It just represents the carbonate present in your water, which will naturally resist pH fluxes due to carbon dioxide injection.
 
So it might be worth a shot? But would my tank be overstocked?

The one I had my eyes on was a Long Finned Blue, I'm not sure how to distinguish male from female.
 
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debaric said:
VERY few fish require a certain pH, your ph just needs to stay very steady for more sensitive species

Yes but I hear they need soft water. Soft water usualy also results in lower PH. So does injecting Co2 reduce water hardness or not really?
 
I don't think injecting Co2 affects water hardness. I've been told by multiple sources that the big concern about water hardness, and even PH to a degree, has more to do with wild caught fish than tank bred. Chances are great that the Ram from your local fish store was born, cared for, and raised in water very close to what you have.

I contemplated getting Discus in the future, but I have harder water and a PH of around 7.2. I thought that would be totally off and that a Discus could not live or thrive in water like that. That was until I saw that there was someone less than a few miles away from me with over thirty tanks in his basement, breeding Discus like weeds with just the plain old tap water I use!!!

I'm no pro but, it seems to me that fish are pretty adaptable. They just need stability.

My local Petsmart keeps the African Cichlids in the same exact water as the Angel Fish & Tetras. It's all part of one water system. I asked the employee how long the fish have to stay in water that isn't really their type. She shrugged her shoulder and pointed up to a tank of Africans that were pretty big and said, "We've had those for months!". LOL
 
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justintoxicated said:
it is about 223.5-238 (15 - 16 drops turns it test kit green) after a 50% water change, but my Ph does drop after the Co2 takes over. GH won't be affected by CO2 right?

Guess the answer is no I cannot keep them :( LFS has same water supply as well.

I have very hard water, gH over 450. I use RO water from my local lfs for my Ram Tank.
 
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