Confused!

I really kind of feel like I totally wasted my time the other night... next time someone tells me they want to get a fish to watch it get eaten by a bigger fish, I'm just going to save my words and time. :/ I think it's clear that this person never really got "conflicting" advice from forumer to forumer... more like it's just conflicting with their own ideas.
 
mzaltadena said:
I know, I may get yelled at but I do not care. I went out and got me 3 baby oscars from my LFS. I know that a 10g tank is not big enough for even one oscar, but I do plan on getting a bigger tank in Feb. Right now my fish are doing great. I doubt that my tank has cycled but I am hard headed and wanted fish. The betta that I had gotten to start the fish cycle has found its new home in a bowl.......

well I'm not going to yell at you..I learned with kids , if you yell at them they shut you out.

I do question your motive for getting these.

fish cycles can be done..but they require more work. you will need to do water changes often..most likely daily.

being this is a 10 gallon you will be subject to extreme changes very quickly..it is important that you stay on top of the water parameters.

I personally would never suggest you use cichlids to cycle a tank..they are too expensive to use to cycle a tank and many suffer during cycling.

I would have suggested zebra danios..

now that you have already made the move , the best thing you can do is what has been suggested. your oscars will quickly outgrow a 10 gallon so I hope you have plans on upgrading to a very large tank as oscars can get pretty big.
 
wow i just read that whole thing and it was like a really boring moving with a CRAZY ending!!!

I do not know how u went from talking about neons, to having a betta in a bowl and 3 oscars in a 10g!!:thud::thud::thud:

U can give some peopel alot of help and STILL they will not listen to u...P.S. even still i think he has NO IDEA HOW BIG A TANK HE IS GOIN TO HAVE TO GET FOR 3 OSCARS!!
 
Three oscars in a ten gallon is laughable. He will need a massive tank for three oscars. They grow very fast. My guess is about 100 gallons per oscar since they poop so much which means he will need a 300 gallon tank for the three oscars that he says he has. I doubt very much that he intends on an aquarium that big since it is not the norm with home aquaria. Just the other day at work there were these girls that bought a bristlenose pleco and two glo fish for thier ten gallon tank. Then they wanted two pearl gourmais for this ten gallon tank. I told them no because even one of those would get too big for a ten gallon tank let alone two. I got busy doing something else only to find out that they went to another associate and got the two pearl gourmais for the ten gallon tank they have anyways. (The associate did not know they were going in a ten gallon tank, she should of asked). Anyways some people never learn and are hard headed and do what they want in the end in spite of the advice that is given. Live and learn I guess. Only problem is that this is at the fish's expense.

Marinemom
 
mvigor said:
My :troll: antennae were up a bit at first and went up really high after that last post. We need to give this one up as a lonely person who just loves the attention. :hang:


Well I would not call myself a lonely person. I just like to chit chat with people in forums and get advise, but when I kept getting misleading advise, I became fustrated.. I can admit that I was kinda tipsy when I was at the pet store when I decided to get these fish...maybe I should have went with the tiger barbs?
 
mzaltadena said:
Well I would not call myself a lonely person. I just like to chit chat with people in forums and get advise, but when I kept getting misleading advise, I became fustrated.. I can admit that I was kinda tipsy when I was at the pet store when I decided to get these fish...maybe I should have went with the tiger barbs?


I'm not sure what advice you recieved was mis-leading.

while there are varying opinions on this site one commonality is many recommend a fishless cycle.
having chosen a fish cycle I will repeat..you need to monitor the water parameters/conditions constantly ..since you are showing ammonia..you can expect it to rise .ideally you should keep it at 0. but in the very least .25 and monitor every 12 hours as you will need to do changes to keep the ammonia down.
next you will see the nitrites get into the picture..this also needs to be kept no higher than .25.
DO NOT change filter media while the tank is cycling..water changes are fine.

you have oscars..these will get big if they remain healthy...tigerbarbs might have been a better choice( I don't think so) but as I suggested..zebra danios are hardy fish..and much cheaper than tiger barbs.

do the oscars a favor and take them back or get a much larger tank soon...very soon..feb may be too late..

you asked for advice..now you have it..it is up to you to choose to be a responsible fish keeper.
 
Desiree,

If you really want a fish tank that's "full of fish" but you also want the fish to live and thrive longer than a month or two, you really, really need to put those little oscars back into a plastic bag or a pail and drive them back to the pet store.

At 23 or 25, you're old enough to know how to separate the crap advice of a LFS patron from the good advice on the fish forums you've joined.

Take back the Oscars and get something that only grows to be an inch or two long. Get a few if you want.

But understand that you are going to need to make a choice:

1. Let fish die constantly until the tank finally cycles itself in 6 or 8 weeks.
2. Empty half your tank every night and replace with new, clean dechlorinated water every night for 6 or 8 weeks.

Option 2 seems hard, but either way it's a lot of work because with option 1 you're

A. Being cruel
B. Have to drive to the pet store all the time
C. Spend hard earned money to buy more fish


Let me also throw out that there is an option #3.

If you know anyone, ANYONE, with a freshwater aquarium that has been running for several months or longer, you can take a big handful of their gravel and put it in your tank and that will cause your cycle time to decrease to a week, give or take. If you could have one of their used filter pads, to put into your filter, you could cycle your tank even faster. Just be sure to keep the living invisible bacteria wet while you transport it from their house to yours.

But with all of these options, you do have to take the Oscars back. A single one full grown Oscar likes a 75 or 100 gallon tank to himself.
 
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oscars ideally grow an inch a month. they need 55Gs per fish with a minimum of 70Gs for one, going up from there. to keep these oscars you are going top need to buy a 180 gallon tank in a months time, are you willing to do that?

also, your tank is not cycled.

please return those oscars, please.
 
Oh My God! You need to take them Oscar's back! Did you even see a full grown Oscar at your petstore? If the Oscar's you got were full grown you couldn't fit ONE in a 10 gallon tank! Take them back, and get like 3 mollies for your tank that grow to about 3"
 
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