did u get the N1H1 flu shot?

I am a nurse on a busy newborn nursery unit. I seriously considered getting the vaccine, they were offering it to us at work, but when I started asking my coworkers if they were going to get it, not one other person on day or night shift was getting it so I decided against it. My neice in El Paso got the swine flu two weeks ago, I am not sure if she is completely over it or not.

Pam, I don't mean to single you out at all but I want to bring up a point here. You were considering getting it then changed your mind because others you work with were not getting it. I don't think using the behavior of others is the best factor to consider in making medical decisions and unfortunately so many do this. It doesn't meet the criteria of "Informed Consent".

I take the issue of vaccines very seriously. I think everyone should. There is far more in a vaccine than just the biological disease and those ingredients need to be considered. I am not an advocate of bovine serum, squalene, thimerosal (and, no, this has not been removed from all vaccines), aluminum (a known neurotoxin), etc etc etc.

I think a person needs to accurately weigh their risk of disease and their knowledge of maintaining their health verses the risk of an adverse reaction. It's not possible to get fully informed consent from a doctor because the doctors don't see the safety and efficacy test results done by the pharmaceutical company manufacturer. It's proprietary info and no one is able to get it outside of the pharma company and the FDA. The best we have is the Vaccine Adverse Events Reporting System (VAERS). It is estimated that only about 10% of vaccine reactions get reported. http://www.medalerts.org/

The next bit of helpful info is to know the actual number of cases of vaccine preventable diseases in the nation and in your area. This data can be found on the CDC website. Dig around here to find actual disease cases. http://www.cdc.gov/mmwr/

I am looking at 2007 data. I would think that they would have more current data but I'll use what I was able to find as an example:
Measles - 43
Mumps - 800
Rubella - 12
The link for this data - http://www.cdc.gov/mmwr/preview/mmwrhtml/mm5653a1.htm

NOw, the VAERS data on the MMR vaccine:....seems I can't find that readily. It's been a few years since I've looked for it and if I recall correctly, they used to have a chart that had totals for each year for each vaccine. I am not seeing that configuration in my search right now.

I'll come back and post after I find it.

The point I am making is that one has to consider the risk of disease against the risk of vaccine reaction and also consider how they will handle their health should they contract a dissease - with or without having had a vaccine (because no vaccine gives 100% coverage.) It's all about informed consent and getting the info takes some work. I've always said that those who blindly rely on the advice of anyone deserve what they get...but sadly if you don't know that you need to ask questions...you don't.
 
The vax is very limited here, too. As it is, I've been really sick this week with a flu-like illness. I saw the Dr. on Thursday, and she thought it might be H1N1. She tested me, but the results won't be back until Monday. In the meantime she gave me Tamiflu and antibiotics. I started the antibiotics (whether or not they'll help in the long run is controversial), but skipped the Tamiflu. Tamiflu supposedly helps if taken within 48 hours, and I met that criteria, but the side-effects can be worse than the flu. Another thing about this is isolation. My 6 year old son had his last soccer game this morning, but the coach asked that he not come----because he might be carrying my germs. *sigh* Some people are terrified of the swine flu.

Why did your physician prescribe an antibiotic for a viral infection? This is why we have antibiotic resistant bacteria now.
 
I agree, you should not use someone else's judgment as a reason for you not to get a vaccine. 12 people do not get a vaccine...ONE person gets the disease. then 11 other people get it, ...were as ONE person gets it, you do NOT get it? Im not sure what I am saying except that I don't think using another persons judgment as your own is right.

Please do your own research, A persons explanation of something could be severely malformed due to there own opinion...is steak good asked the consumer to the server...the best he reply's...but not if the person doesn't like steak. If a person does not like something , there perception on the situation will change accordingly.

I personally try to keep an open mind and keep tabs on the pros and cons on certain situation and it is not unlike me to create lists on them as well. Just to weigh out the situation in my OWN head.
 
I got the real thing from my brother and both of us are over it and perfectly fine so we will not be getting the shot. For everyone out there that thinks it's so bad and it will kill you, poeple die from the regular flu too. The media had made this WAY worse than it actually is.
 
Why did your physician prescribe an antibiotic for a viral infection? This is why we have antibiotic resistant bacteria now.

That is why I said it was controversial. ;) Some Doctors do prescribe antibiotics with H1N1, as some people develop bacterial infections along with the flu, such as bacterial pneumonia. It is often the bacterial infection that kills a person, not just the swine flu itself. Another reason she gave me the antibiotics is because she wasn't 100% certain I don't have a bacterial infection instead of a flu. Since it would be several days before my flu test results came back, she went ahead and prescribed the antibiotics for either scenario. Since I decided to skip the Tamiflu, I went ahead and started the antibiotics. I did have fluid in my ears with painful earaches, and at least that has eased since starting them. I have gone years without using antibiotics until this year, I do agree that they can be overused.
 
I havent fully decided as of yet. I was suposed t get it and then now they are only vaccinating children under 6 in our province. I really dont like the sound of it ATM. Im thinking I will go take the Tamiflu. At least I know my body doesnt react horribly to the Tamiflu, as I took it last year, a bit of nausea and that it.
 
personally I don't get the seasonal vaccine and I will not be getting the H1N1 vaccine. I agree that some vaccines are definitely necessary like measles mumps rubella and I personally thing we should still be vaccinating for small pox. However, this year all the vaccines are coming out to late to be effective. From the time you get the vaccines to the time your body builds up enough resistance is to long for any of it to be effective. From my infectious disease courses and virology courses in college, I know for me I would be better off building a resistance by being exposed to the real thing than get a vaccine. I know the risks and the mortality rates of both seasonal and swine flu. And, I know for me, I will not be getting the vaccines. I know the typical rates of mutation on the regular flu, and from what I understand the rates of mutation in the swine flu are comparable. And in six months to a year the vaccines will no longer be effective.
I will say this though, as with antibiotics, tamiflu is being used to often and there are now cases of tamiflu resistant versions of many viruses out there. Tamiflu should only be used as a last resort if someone's immune system and diet can not help them fight the flu at all. There are new versions of Tamiflu type drugs coming out, however if people keep using these medications when not really needed they will quickly be useless. I know there are BIG differences between how viruses and bacterial infections work, but the same story holds true with medication.

If you get a chance, go to the CDC's website (www.cdc.gov) and read some of the old dispatches in the emerging infectious diseases section. They even present the raw data to back up their findings. Their findings show that antibiotic and antiviral medications are overused on a global scale. There is a reason Penicillin is rarely used now.

OK I'll get off my soapbox now.........
 
wow i dont think im gunna get my shot after watching that vid

Not only was it the seasonal flu shot but they mentioned that what she got was extremely rare multiple times.

I got the seasonal flu shot+the H1N1 nasal vaccination a few weeks ago and the only thing that is different about me is I am now immune to both H1N1 and the seasonal flu. In other words I am fine.
 
I am a nurse on a busy newborn nursery unit. I seriously considered getting the vaccine, they were offering it to us at work, but when I started asking my coworkers if they were going to get it, not one other person on day or night shift was getting it so I decided against it. My neice in El Paso got the swine flu two weeks ago, I am not sure if she is completely over it or not.

whhaaattt? not only is that not safe but also probably against hospital policy (im a nursing student)
 
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