dieing platys

jennypenny

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Over the past week I have had some very sad platy deaths. At first I thought it was do to a filter problem, but that no longer seems to be the case. I give you the whole story, then any suggestions would be helpful.

In May I had a health well established tank of three platys, one swordtail, one cory cat, and a few small platy fry. Then I went away for Memorial Day. Before I left I did a small water change of about 15-20% (I had done larger water change earlier I the week). I also gave the fish a hearty meal (there are also live plants in the tank). All part of my normal going away routine. I was gone 4 days.

When I returned my filter had been clogged by the leaves of the one fake plant in the tank. The fish must have broken them off somehow. The filter was down to the tiniest trickle. Obviously I am not sure when the clog happened. The fry and one platy was dead (She the meekest of all my fish and if any fish had some stress it was her). I tested the water and my nitrate was a little high, but the rest of my parameters were good. I have continued testing as have not had any sign of ammonia or nitrite.

Anyway I did a huge water change and decided to keep any eye on everybody. Since then my other two platy have had clamped fins and my other female (a very dominate fish) has bee porn to hiding. At first I was hoping that she was just getting picked on because I now had a 1:1 male, female ratio. But she started to loose color over the course of the week ad the male also had clamped fins. I have continued to do water changes and test. Yesterday the female was swimming around more and I saw her eating, so I was hopeful, but this morning she was dead. The male still has clamped fins, but is acting normal. The swordtail and cory have looked perfectly fine the entire time (Actually they are older fish the I inherited from someone else).

Well any thoughts or suggestion? I actually have some other fry that I would like to move into the tank soon, but not until I clear up whatever is affecting the other platys.
 
Jenny,
I am not sure what this could be, what is your current temp in your tank? Sometimes live bearers get kinda picky on temp. But I have a feeling that it was stress that took them in. Many types of platies are just not healthy, plus going from the breeders then to the fish store and to you can cause the fish to stress out. The reason why those other fish did well for you is that they were at the previous owner's for a while before coming to you. They had time to relax and ease to being moved. I would just wait a few more weeks or a full month before adding any more fish. And then give them a try, go to your lfs and watch the fish and ask to see them feed. Also ask the shop where they got thier fish. If its a local breeder Bonus, those are pretty healthy fish over a fish farm.
 
I'm certain it isn't moving stress I have had these fish for months, they have bred interacted like normal platys. As far as temp. that might be a cause it did get warm recently, but the tank has only been a few degrees above or below 79* where I typically keep the tank.
 
jennypenny said:
I'm certain it isn't moving stress I have had these fish for months, they have bred interacted like normal platys. As far as temp. that might be a cause it did get warm recently, but the tank has only been a few degrees above or below 79* where I typically keep the tank.
hmmmm.. have you checked your water hardness. I would go in and check and see what it is at.
A Livebearer aquarium, in the purist sense, would have a significantly hard/alkaline water chemistry (dGH 30 degrees/pH value 7.5 to 8.2) which is in conflict with the Tetra and Dwarf Cichlid species with which they are frequently housed. It is very convenient for both the industry and the hobbyist that some of these Livebearers are able to compromise in this regard and live comfortably in the medium soft water (dGH 5-12 /pH value 7) of a general community.
 
trickster, Couldn't something like this just have a snowball effect because of the filter episode last week? Meaning the fish got stressed and they are still stressed and will succumb to any stress related illness that they are vulnerable to?

jennypenny, I might do a water change and use prime to help promote their slime coat a little.
Take care,
Mary.
 
mduros said:
trickster, Couldn't something like this just have a snowball effect because of the filter episode last week? Meaning the fish got stressed and they are still stressed and will succumb to any stress related illness that they are vulnerable to?

jennypenny, I might do a water change and use prime to help promote their slime coat a little.
Take care,
Mary.
That is true.. could have been from the filter issue.
but Jenny is doing water changes, so I am at a loss here. With out actually seeing the tank, I am not sure what is the culprit. (i am a hands on type of guy) But you know you may be right, it could be a combination of weak fish from poor genes along with the filter issue. I have seen weirder things happen.
 
My test strips are not supper accurate, but my water is a little alkaline. My best guess is that there has been some underlying problem that the fish were healthy enough to avoid until the filter wet down. I just do not try and treat something before I know what it is. It is just frustrating.
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id advise that you get a proper water test kit not strips.

Secondly I would say dont worry about the hardness, most fish will be absolutely fine if you adjust them properly.

Trird: try getting a general tonic ehile your fish are weak, to keep the background levels at bay.

Lastly: Keep up those changes and remember to dechlorinate the water

:)
 
jwddboy said:
id advise that you get a proper water test kit not strips.

Secondly I would say dont worry about the hardness, most fish will be absolutely fine if you adjust them properly.

Trird: try getting a general tonic ehile your fish are weak, to keep the background levels at bay.

Lastly: Keep up those changes and remember to dechlorinate the water

:)
Actually hardness matters to Live bearers, its the akalinity that doesnt matter.
Plus Tonics are bunk, and a waste of money. She has done most of the things right as with doing water changes.
 
I use a very effective tonic actually. I have never got a single infection in the tank i use it on, even when tranferring fish from a "not quite recovered from ich" tank.

also... you say they will like hard (agreed) but will live fine in medium/soft water?! Surely that means that they aren't that picky... like I said...
 
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