DIY Pothos Nitrate Filter... Seams to be working!

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Just wanted to show my Pothos Nitrate Filter. Been running for 4 days and Nitrates are down to 40ppm from >80ppm+ and my TDS has even dropped from 380 down to about 355. I really didn't expect much for at least a few weeks, but so far I'm more than pleasantly impressed.

The output from my Rena XP3 goes directly into the planter sitting on top of my tank (Kind of ugly, but oh well). In the planter is about 10L of Hydroton and a bubble stone that goes the full length of the planter to increase the oxygen content of the O2 depleted water from the filter. On the bottom of the planter, opposite of the filter output, is a simple 1" pipe that sits about 4 inches above the bottom of the planter and drains directly down into the tank. This is basically a DWC (Deep Water Culture) hydroponics setup where the water is never drained and O2 is supplied by bubbles. Also, the bubbles prevent any anarobic zones in the hydroton by constantly disturbing the water and the constant flow from the pump ensures a fresh supply of nitrate rich water.

Because the water is filter output, there should be less build up of organic compounds (poop) in the hydroton while getting a direct supply of bacteria that blows through the filter. I want all the organic solids breakdown to occur inside the filter so I can clean it out and eliminate some of the generation of nitrates; the point isn't to create a ton of nutrients for the plants in my case. If some of the plants starve to death because there aren't enough nutrients, that is a good thing in my book!

In the photo, there are two large pothos broken up into their individual cuttings (Also one lucky bamboo just because). Within the last 4 days, I've noticed about an inch of growth on the longer stems and there are a handful of new leaves developing. I really didn't expect them to take off so soon from what I've read from other's experience doing this. I did add 5mL of Seachem Flourish to ensure the plants had some of the other nutrients not supplied by poop. I think part of the reason for this fast growth is the bubbling within the planter. Because I have goldfish & Koi, I aerate the water with another stone inside the tank from another air pump which should keep O2 levels up even after filtration so the bubbles in the planter just add to it for the plants like a true hydroponic DWC system which is known to show quick & rapid growth.

The only 'negative' I've noticed is that I'm evaporating a TON more water from the tank... I'm having to add about 1/2 to 1 gallon per day of water to replenish water levels. Also, another odd thing I've noticed is that after extended times with the lights off, there is one drop of water on the very tips of the majority of leaves. Just a single drop on the very end of most leaves and of course, it did not rain inside my house so this shows just how much water is being drawn up into the plants for filtering.

EDIT: Thanks to CWO4GUNNER for the original post describing this to me back a year or so ago.

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Very cool, obviously the filter is extremely effective! That sucks about the evaporation, but I don't see how it can be helped. Airstones tend to do this. Thankfully goldfish don't mind hard water, so adding plain treated tap water will be fine, even if it does add minerals back when only pure water is what has evaporated.

Do you have a long term plan for the koi? That's a plenty spacious tank for the one (?) ryukin but I imagine those koi aren't done growing yet! ;) Perhaps that pothos filter can turn into a vegetable sump for an indoor pond...lol
 
Do you have a light above the pothos? IME they grow faster with more light and with faster growth they use more nutrients thus making a more effective nitrate filter. Just my two cents.
 
The evaporation really isn't that big of a deal to me as long as TDS doesn't start rising dramatically because of it. I used to lose around 1 gal per week before I added the Pothos and TDS rose about 5 PPM per day. Right now in its initial 'settling in' period, TDS has dropped DRAMATICALLY, but I'm assuming this is temporary due to the added water volume of the planter in addition to an initial surge of uptake by the plants. I'm sure the plants will get saturated and things will level off where I see steady gains in TDS as usual. One interesting thing is that TDS right now reads about 355 in the tank, but in the planter it reads about 350. I'm guessing this is more a factor of the filter rather than a direct impact of the Pothos, but still interesting that it can very that much. I'm hoping that enough bacteria colonate the planter where I can devote more space in my filter for mechanical filtration as opposed to the 2 liters of biofiltration I am using right now inside of it.

As for the Koi, I'm trying desperately to find a suitable home for them. I have an ad in the classifieds for them FOR FREE and no one has replied at all. I've put them in Craigslist FOR FREE and no one has responded. The only hitch is that the person who wants them must come & get them as I don't have a way to transport them. The original plan for them was for my buddy to take them this past spring to put into a koi pond he was planning on building, but he ended up building what amounted to a 100 gal half buried kiddy pool where these fish will surely die from either heat & bad water this summer or freezing to death this winter so I'm not giving them to him. If I could, I would build a proper pond for them in my own backyard which I've been wanting forever, but it can't happen at my current location no way no how. As soon as I find a proper home for the 3 koi, the ryukin is going into a full aquaponics system with one or two similar sized friends in a 40 gal breeder tank that will be nicely decorated. The total volume of water for the aquaponics system should be close to 75 gallons and the decor plan for the tank should keep em occupied with the environment as opposed to searching for ways to escape.
 
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Do you have a light above the pothos? IME they grow faster with more light and with faster growth they use more nutrients thus making a more effective nitrate filter. Just my two cents.

There is a floor standing lamp above off to the right hand side, but no large light above anymore. I had a large 100 watt CF bulb in a shop light clipped to the shelf to the left, but it was ghetto and my nieghbors suspected me of growing pot because of the bright and high color temp of the light 24/7 for a few days! The photo really doesnt do the lighting much justice as my phone really screws up the light balance from reality. It is quite bright in my room and in the morning, the plant see's direct sunlight for about 4 hours. The light tilted up is a PowerGlo and really is for ambient lighting in the room for my Home theater setup (Ambient light to offset the marginal black levels from my LED HDTV.) I'm wanting the Pothos to crawl towards the light so it covers the top of my tank. I'm hoping to trim it so it is very bushy right on top of the tank to completely cover the canopy and hide that ugly plastic planter
 
Living in the desert with a humidity of 1-5% evaporation was a concern especially in summer and just for the chore of adding water everyday but TDS and central AC which has to work harder to remove that water from of my 7 tanks totaling 1200 gallons from the house. As you my exposed Pothos filter housed in Aqua-clear, Aqua-tech, and Penguin large HOB filters allow for allot of evaporation or so I thought. In an effort to stem the dehydration I installed DIY custom fit Painters Clear Visqueen beneath the glass panels and overlapping the backspalsh and HOB outflow. This Visqueen come in large rolls for under $20 and is thick mill about as thick as a quality freezer bag plastic. Anyway if cut properly and the excess (about 2inches beyond tank perimeter) properly folded looks very acceptable and really recaptures about 90% of otherwise evaporated water. So much so here in summer that it is about as effective as having an expensive RO replenishment system for pennies on the dollar. Apparently what I discovered is that evaporation happens from the entire surface and escapes as water vapor gas from all tank cover cracks and crevices not just the Pothos reservoir. Quite simply the evaporating water-vapor collects and sticks to the visqueen but unlike the glass panels which are flat and have crack-crevices at every seam, the visqueen which is draped toward the center of each tank side condenses, collects and draws the water toward the draped low hanging center under gravity and rains back into the tank just like in nature. Of course even though this a long proven method of producing purified drinking water on a large scale in 3rd world countries, because this application is new on an aquarium a few say it cant possible work and to replenish even purer water then an RO system, albeit I admit not as much. Still saved me allot of replenishment water, time and $100's on a dedicated RO system, now not needed.

Anyway if you look up my post you'll see it but not without controversy which is expected with any new idea that upsets the standard.
 
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