Dropsy?/protruding scales

damion

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Returned from a weekend trip and my Aro's tops scales are protruding and blackish with reddish streaks underneath. Is this Dropsy? Not bloating and the rest of the fish doesn't appeared affected.
Found out the nitrates are dangerously high,lowered it w/h20 change. Is it a sign of high nitrates in the tank? What confuses me is it didn't seem to cause any problems w/the others.
 
it sounds very much like dropsy. It is kind of an odd disease, it is not a disease that is epidemic in your tank. Some people think it is from bad diet, but even some fish that have had a diet of high quality life food occationally suffer from it. I really don't think it was singliy from the high nitrates, but could be a factor. There is no real cut and fast treatment for this disease, but I did find this in my travels as a dropsy treatment:
Put the fish in a hospital tank, but do not add any salt. because it irritates under the fish's scales. Put the temp fairly high to about 78 up to mid 80s. Put in epsom salts 1/8 teaspoon/gallon. You can try one treatment of oxolinic acid can help. But you need to use caution becase the oxolinic acid will become toxic in a few days (about three) and a complete change of the water needs to be done at this point to get the fish out of the presence of the acid.( remember that the water has to be preveously cycled water)Then, if the fish lives, it should be left in the hospital tank for about one week. This was given to me by a friend who has been in the hobby for over 50 years, I have never had to use it, but I hope it works for you. I have no Idea what oxolinic acid is, so that is up to you to find out. Also it can be benificial to feed the fish antibiotic food (which your LFS may have). You are going to have to work fast though, because the majority of fish with dropsy die within a week or two!! We can only pray that you fish will survive this! Good luck!
 
good post vato
and yes dropsy does sound ilke what you have.
Work quick, my fish that had dropsy tended to die in a week.
 
It may not be dropsey. My arowana had a problem similar to what you are talking about but it was his gills that flared out. It seemed to be caused by high nitrates. I got the nitrates down and the gills went back into the proper position. I got lucky. I've heard stories where they don't go back down.
 
Thanks, I had added Melafix last night because I didn't have any meds to treat for dropsy. My aro looks worse this morning. I'll keep my fingers crossed
 
If it is dropsy, unfortunately, there's not much you can do because by the time you can see it, the damage has been done. The symptoms of dropsy (raised scales/bloat/etc) are actually just that - symptoms. They're a result of a failing/failed kidney/liver system that cannot deal with toxins properly, I do believe. If you have Epsom Salt you can try adding some of that - it helps draw excess fluid out of the water. Of course, if it's an aro its probably in a big tank and would take quite a bit...not sure how much you'd need to dose. Maybe someone else could help with that....

Good luck!
 
Didn't make it:sad
The onset is very quick and appears terminal. The only difference is the abdomen wasn't swollen at all. Eyes sunken though. I'm not sure whether it was dropsy or not. The average is 1 week survival. Earliest it could have occurred was Sat nite by Mon looked like death warmed over.
Thanks for everyone's help though
 
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Awww, I'm sorry:( It sucks, I know. I lost my favorite betta ever to it in January - for no discernible reason.

There was nothing you could do...
 
Noticed that my clown loach is missing. Any chance that it's toxic and would have caused the demise of my Aro from consuming it?
They've been tank mates for 5 months and the Aro missed his meal on Sunday.????????????????
 
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