Ever seen anything paranormal?

I have to agree with Liz's stance on 'God's' will. Well said.
 
Liz, I like that idea. But I have a hole to shot into it. If its all planed, then why have to test people? Ex; when God asked whats-his-name to bring his son to the hill and sacrifice him.
 
hmmm, well ill relate something odd that happened to me a few years ago. i was going out my back door and had gone down the stairs to the sidewalk when i saw a huge triangular black object with 3 lights. it was really low-flying, about 200 or so odd yards off above the treeline, which is about 50 feet above ground level. i was like, holy s***, a frickin ufo. i thought about running or going for cover but i thought they already knew i was there. it came closer and closer. i could hear the engines of the craft as it approached above the trees. when it was around 100 yards off i realized it was airplane. odd part about the whole story is i live like 15 miles away from the airport. ive lived here a while now and have nevr seen any plane getting that close before. anyway, at the time it seemed to be a ufo.
 
Liz, I like that idea. But I have a hole to shot into it. If its all planed, then why have to test people? Ex; when God asked whats-his-name to bring his son to the hill and sacrifice him.


I don't think it's planned so much as God designed everything exactly how he wanted it, to function as he wanted it (even the complexities behind the development of the human mind), and even despite the fall I believe he knows what's going to happen. Because I don't believe god is confined to time. He is beyond time and space. And since he designed everything to do what he wants it to do, he loves his creation and how it develops. I am not positive how sin plays into this, but I am not sure I believe in the adam and eve story anyway (there goes my credibility). I believe that anyone who was ever human was capable of "sin". I believe what defines us as individuals is our position in space and time, as well as our gentics (aka environment and genetics). They all interplay and mold the mind, so that even two twins raised in the same home, since they cannot both occupy the same space at the same time because of the existance of matter, even this seemingly small difference can have a huge impact on their experiences and how they grow to see the world.

I don't think we are as individual or as good as we think we are. If the most prestigous christian had been born with Jeffrey Dahmer's DNA, in his exact environment and such, the chain reaction would have been the same that jeffrey dahmer had went through, and of course they would do the horrible things he did. But then you could say that they were jeffrey dahmer. And yes, you are correct. So that's who jeffrey dahmer is, his DNA and his environments/experiences. That's all that makes a person. I do not believe in chance, I believe everything could be calculated if it was physically possible...

but god doesn't have to calculate. He already knows. and there is no future or past for god, because he isn't limited to time. There is nothing he doesn't know/doesn't expect. It's not that he's controlling, it's just that he knows because he designed everything sees the chain reaction that is time in a way we don't, as a whole instead of linear. and askjsdf

I am not sure that we have a purpose, other than for each substance/material/plant/animal to play out as it was designed to. Which everything does, there are no mistakes, because nothing happens by chance and there is a cause for everything and a history behind every action.


This is what I would believe if I could make myself believe there was a god.

Maybe that is the only way God is controlling, on the rare ocassion he intervenes to alter the course a little bit. But it's all probably a part of his vision, like I said. He knows everything. He wasn't really testing, maybe, he already knew what the outcome would be. He was just interfering to redirect things from another course. If he really ever has intervened, I am not sure I believe that part. I don't think he'd really need to. I also am not sure I believe in Jesus being any more a part of god than we are... it just doesn't make sense to me.

Also, the evolution vs creationist. I do not buy into the big bang theory, I will admit I do not know it well. But IF there is a god and he DID create everything, things which exist in time and things with interact and a world which changes and climates which change, monthly yearly and over the whole course of existance, wouldn't a good god create things that could adapt to an ever changing environment in order that they might best be suited for it? Wouldn't it make sense that they can shed, as a species, things they no longer need for the changing lifestyle, and to utilize beneficial things?
 
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I think that everyone has there own opinion, however perhaps someday science will be able to prove or disprove ghosts, and more paranormal experiences. Until that day I know what I have gone through at times scary, and at times peaceful. I am not crazy, but perhaps one of the few who have a gift.
 
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well ive seen alot of spirits. its common for people in my dare i say it religion. In my old house theres was a man...old but short. In my cousins hous theres about 7-8 or more. theres her daughtrs 2 guardians, her husbands guardian , and 4 others or so were not sur about. We had to get rid of one that was causing problems, he was creating argument over and over again and horrible smel in the house...hes gone now. My cousin first saw her husbands guardian a few months ago, she askd him whos tha guy laking behind you? he said no one..thn she described him as being a very tall skinny afican tribsman looking guy...and thats all she said, i had never heard about that guy only her hubby knew.Then one night whilei was there i was oserving my gaudrian (i know that sounds crazy but its our religon) i saw her tlaking to someone in the corner, i stood up to go see who and i told my cousin "whos this extremely tall african looking dude ...?" shes like does he have a pouch and i finished her sentence describing it just as she saw it. It was very cool to know hes still around. Then that night i asked her hubby "does the conga (the spirit who is with me at all times) did sh ever have a small littl black dog..kinda pugy in any depictions...my cousin thought and he said no she never was associated with a dog like that...so i kept thinking and said that i see this little black pugy dog running back and forth ...then my cousin yelled SPUNKY! it was my cousins recently deceased pugy lil yokrie dog. He was guarding the babies crib. So yeah i can go on and on and on with stories...but...
 
I thought it was just mentioned, no talking about religion.
 
Ok Niko.

I think the only people who don't believe in the paranormal are the ones who haven't seen it. No one laugh but I know exactly how to... well... "contact" the paranormal. I also don't believe the paranormal is full of dead people.... I would go further but religion isn't allowed. But as I was saying, sure, eyes and ears can play tricks on us and they have (with me too) but I've also seen some things that couldn't be tricks. There was a time when I went out with some friends and tried contacting spirits and... we all saw some pretty gruesome things. I can understand if you feel that spirits are fake though.
 
eeww... i didnt want to see it, so i couldnt immagine trying to see it...sheesh
 
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