fish only or reef?

Pallen81

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hi all, I've been doing freshwater tanks for over 6 years now and eventually (in 6 months - 2 years) I plan on setting up a saltwater tank. I am researching alot about this, buying books, expanding my knowledge. I don't want to jump into anything I'm not ready for. I'm aware reef tanks cost alot more (lights, calcium, restrict selection of fish, etc ) and require more time in terms of water testing, etc.

as a first time saltwater tank owner... Would it be wise to have a Fish Only tank or go the full distance and go for a Reef/Fish aquarium? Your experiences are VERY welcome!!!
 
If I had to do it again. First having a fish only than rotating to reef with small compt. fish. I learned alot by fish first, which are more adjustable to things than some corals. But if you want to do fish and coral, or the route I took, just buy the equipment that can be used in both. Like lighting, skimmer, and live rock. It is cheaper to add to existing than to trash inadequate. Also please take Max's advice no crushed coral.
 
absolutely, I agree with the others. This is the progression I personally recommend: Fish only, then inverts, then reefs. Invertebrates in general are more sensitive to water chemistry so require a fairly experienced aquarist. Corals, particularly the hard corals, are even more so because their functions are intimately tied to water chemistry. Of course, corals are invertebrates as well, but I place them in a separate category than crustaceans and snails/slugs/nudibranchs due to care needs. Live rock I would probably place between fish and inverts in terms of difficulty level.
 
If you have any experience with fw tanks, and were successful in keeping them (particularly species oriented set-ups), I would go straight to reef (I did), unless there are non-reef safe fish that you'd like to keep.

To me, that is the real question -- what kind of fish do you want to keep? That should determine whether you want to go reef or not.

Extra time for a reef is a few minutes every day or every other day -- about 10 for me. Testing for a reef tank once it's stablilized is weekly at most, barring some specific reason to do so more regularly.

If money is a limiting factor, FO might be a better option since you wouldn't need as good of lighting, but the bulk of the other expenses related to upkeep aren't greatly different for FO or reef, IMO. If you're interested in growing coralline algae on any of the live rock in the tank, you'd still be dosing calcium and alkalinity buffer, just not as often in a FO tank. But, you'd still be doing it and would probably still buy the same size container of the supplement. It would just last you awhile longer.

You would save money by not buying corals, but even that can be done inexpensively. Most of the corals I started out with I got for free or paid $5 a piece for as frags (mainly soft corals). They've since grown (over 4 - 5 months) and are as large or larger than anything you'd find for sale at a LFS.

Essentially, cost is what you make of it. If you decide to buy everything new, it will cost you a lot regardless if you go FO or reef. There's always people around that are tearing down a tank, selling equipment, lighting, live sand, live rock, corals, fish, hermits, snails, etc. for much less than new. I'd check with a local reef club (if there's one in your area), the newspaper, craigslist, eBay, and for sale ads on the various sw boards to see what you can get in good used condition regardless of whether you go FO or reef. We saved a ton of money versus buying new when we got our set-up used. Besides, I've run into many people that if you're buying a couple things from them at the same time (especially locally), they'll tend to be generous and toss in something extra just because you're taking the stuff off their hands.

Either way, good luck and enjoy!
 
One comment to add. If you will be useing the same tank for your reef be VERY VERY careful about what chems. and meds you add to the tank now. If you add something like copper to your FO tank and later try to make it a reef you will not be very happy.
 
Thanks for all the information...

Can Lionfish be in a reef tank? I'd like to have one of those someday.

55 gallon:
2 large Silver Dollars
1 medium Convict
1 Tiger Pleco

10 Gallon:
3 Dwarf Puffers
2 Ghost Shrimp
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Part-Time Aquarist at Adventure Aquarium, NJ.
 
It depends on the size and nature of the reef. Lions will eat anything that can fit in their mouths so even with the dwarf lions etc. you'll limit some of the fish you can have. They do make quite a bit of organic waste as well so you'll have to keep that in mind when stocking.
hth
Max
 
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