Ford or Chevy
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Thanks, Joe! Funny thing is, I put mine out, and next thing I knew, most of the neighbors on my street did, too. It was flag day, every day, on my little street in the old part of San Antonio.
Another cool thing is that all of the people on my street were knowledgeable of courtesies and customs in displaying the flag...like lowering it at night, or keeping it illuminated by the porch light so that it was never displayed in darkness. Not too many neighborhoods like that, these days.
Okay,...now, sports fans, back to the FoMoCo vs. GM debate
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Another cool thing is that all of the people on my street were knowledgeable of courtesies and customs in displaying the flag...like lowering it at night, or keeping it illuminated by the porch light so that it was never displayed in darkness. Not too many neighborhoods like that, these days.
Okay,...now, sports fans, back to the FoMoCo vs. GM debate
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Wow my dad has a 1997 C5 corvette with 42,000 miles and weve only had one thing go bad on it, i think it was the fuel filter fitting but anyways it was only $50 and its been fine since, another thing about corvettes, everyone think they ride like Sh*t. the thing is that they come with crappy goodyear tires that are hard as rock after like 500 miles(lots of virbation). To solve this we got a set of Toyo Proxies and now that vette rides like a cadalac, no joke it rides that smooth, its great for long distance trips to ohio.While i was typing this i thought about my cousins husband who also has a 2002 Z06 and with a proximatly 35,000 miles and he has yet to have any problems with it either....i dont know what is with your buddies vette, when you say shaking to meen vibrations from the road or the engine, remeber a Z06 suspension is hard as rock compared to the other model corvettes( convt. coupe ). The nice thing about my dads is that it has a 3 way setting for soft, hard, and performance. About vettes depriciating in value that is true, you have to be pretty stupid to buy a vette brand new off the lot because over the process of a year you just lost $15,000. But then again buying any brand new vehicle is stupid if you dont plan on keeping it for many,many years to come. In order for it to even out you will have to wait a good 20 years and then (if still in good condition)you can get your money back, thats the thing about vettes, no matter what year it is its still a cool vette, and besides most peopel who buy vettes dont buy them as a normall cars to have and then sell a few years later(unless upgrading to new). For my dad it has always been his desire to own a corvette so he will probably have it forever.
GM has always struggled w/ quality control and a normal product development cycle, usually only getting a vehicle model "right" from the engineering perspective after hard years of dealing with consumer complaints and production line changes...then, instead of selling the product to happy consumers for 3 years while designing the next generation, they typically stop production!
So, you end up with a sizeable group of dissatisfied Chevy owners plus the happy ones who feel like thier fine choice of car was tossed out the window by GM upper management! (for example, think Fiero; GM actually built a nice 2-seater for the masses after struggling through initial years of terrible driveline problems, only to axe it w/ no follow on).
The proof is that GM went from historically holding the majority of U.S. market share in both cars and trucks to closing more plants and laying off more workers than any other time in its history.
BTW, when I mean shaking loose, I'm talking improper assembly of interior and exterior pieces, and finding those flat black screws (used for putting together the forward part of the cabin) of all sizes in the footwells on a frequent basis, wondering where they came from. The whole car started "sounding cheap". My last ride in it was just a short 1-mile hop, not above 25mph, and the left rear fender sounded like it had broken loose from one of the bonding strips used to affix it to the chassis, developing a weird pattern of stress cracks in the fibreglass. Then, he had some strange oil consumption problems after breaking in the motor, sometimes using up over 2qts/1,000 miles on a highway road trip, only to have it not burn any oil between changes, and then do it again. You don't expect this from a car with that sticker price. The sad part is, the Bowling Green plant is THE best production line GM has in terms of QA.
I do agree, when set to soft, the ZO6 ride is commendable...much, much better than my old Stingray, and amazing that by switching modes you can change it instantly...there's no sound of small electric motors moving anything on the shocks; it's instant. Not sure how they engineered this; it's like turning a light bulb on or off.
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So, you end up with a sizeable group of dissatisfied Chevy owners plus the happy ones who feel like thier fine choice of car was tossed out the window by GM upper management! (for example, think Fiero; GM actually built a nice 2-seater for the masses after struggling through initial years of terrible driveline problems, only to axe it w/ no follow on).
The proof is that GM went from historically holding the majority of U.S. market share in both cars and trucks to closing more plants and laying off more workers than any other time in its history.
BTW, when I mean shaking loose, I'm talking improper assembly of interior and exterior pieces, and finding those flat black screws (used for putting together the forward part of the cabin) of all sizes in the footwells on a frequent basis, wondering where they came from. The whole car started "sounding cheap". My last ride in it was just a short 1-mile hop, not above 25mph, and the left rear fender sounded like it had broken loose from one of the bonding strips used to affix it to the chassis, developing a weird pattern of stress cracks in the fibreglass. Then, he had some strange oil consumption problems after breaking in the motor, sometimes using up over 2qts/1,000 miles on a highway road trip, only to have it not burn any oil between changes, and then do it again. You don't expect this from a car with that sticker price. The sad part is, the Bowling Green plant is THE best production line GM has in terms of QA.
I do agree, when set to soft, the ZO6 ride is commendable...much, much better than my old Stingray, and amazing that by switching modes you can change it instantly...there's no sound of small electric motors moving anything on the shocks; it's instant. Not sure how they engineered this; it's like turning a light bulb on or off.
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Yup, all us guys in the USAF, USA, USN, USMC, USCG and USMM are just a bunch of Ford-driving, low rate, chump change, happy family, sweet-n-sour pork eatin' hicks....kyle3 said:
....it's all good!On a funny side, the Navy once flew a well-liked, reliable nice-handling jet fighter called the Douglas F4D (nicknamed "Ford", as you can guess why).
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LOLNative American said:Yup, all us guys in the USAF, USA, USN, USMC, USCG and USMM are just a bunch of Ford-driving, low rate, chump change, happy family, sweet-n-sour pork eatin' hicks....
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