Freshwater Puffer??? Need help!!!

Pufferpunk. I'm thinking about keeping a brackish water tank actually. Maybe when the fish in the 75 outgrow it I'll convert it to brackish water.

I just feel like the dwarfs in the 30 would be better off in a tank that's longer instead of taller.
 
Originally posted by Firefighter

Pufferpunk. Females are more rounded right? If not, how do I tell the difference? If they are more rounded I have one male and the rest are females. But there's one that doesn't hang with the pack all the time. Could it be there's a dominate male already in the pack? I've not noticed any disputes between any of them. The one just does it's own thing and hangs with the pack when it decides. Or to feed.

The way to tell the difference between males and females with these little guys is the female will have a solid white belly, while the male will have a line going from their chin to their tail through the center of this white belly. Both of them will get pretty riounded, depending on how much they can fit in their little bellies. For that one that lingers to and fro the group at it's own will, could be that it just has a mind of it's own.

Also... There are some really small snails in my greenhouse koi pond. Like the size of a pin head. Can I feed them to the puffers? Or maybe put a few in the tank and let them grab them on thier own? There are also a bigger snails. The biggest the size of a dime. I didn't add them so they either came from the plants or some other unknown means.

If you're absolutely sure there's no kind of disease in the pond, I think it'd be alright to throw a few in the tank. You could just toss them in, let the snails do what they want and eventually your puffers will notice them and begin to keep them in check. When I first put some in my tank though, they were gone in no time. I had to offer them snails a few times before they started chilling out on them or maybe it was that finally the snails did what they needed to do to keep a colony going. Now, I still have snails constantly, but never an overwhelming overabundance....I'm giving that tribute to the puffers keeping them in check.

And last but not least. The ponds, lakes, streams, and rivers are full of freshwater shrimp. I laugh when I see them in pet stores now. A net and a bucket and you can have tons of them. Anyway... I know the puffers are only going to get an inch or so. Think they could manage to feed on a small freshwater shrimp? Around the thier same size.

I'm a little weary about taking from the wild and adding them to the home aquarium. I guess I don't trust the parameters whole heartedly. If I were you, I'd quarantine the shrimp before tossing them in your tank. I will say though, that they do rather have a fancy for them and they're good for keeping their teeth good and trimmed.

I'd like to offer them a varied diet. Black worms seem to be a must. And the crayfish. If the snails and shrimp will work I'll keep it to those 4. I'm not interested in raising bbs, and like with the frozen bloods worms they just nibble them. They'll have one, and ignore the rest. The cories love them however. Also the flounder.
sounds like you're on your way to a few happy little puffers with this variation!! :D ;) :D

I saw a 45 gallon breeder tank at the lfs when I was getting another cory and think I'd like to get it for 15-20 of these guys. I liked the fact that it was wider instead of taller. Say like a 55. I'm a big fan of larger fish, but these guys have me in front of thier tank more than the others. My oscar is intelligent. But these puffers are in a class of thier own.

I agree, these little guys can sure measure up to some of the biggest!! Good luck Fire, I wish you and your little ones the best!
 
Firefighter, I have 6 of the little darlings myself, they are the most intelligent fish we have, but I refer to them as the tiny terrors. I have not been able to keep them with any other fish (except my bumblebee gobies, which I will be moving to a Bw setup soon). I tried them in a community tank and they proceeded to use all the other fish as entertainment and ride them around the tank by grabbing onto a fin or tail and riding until they were ripped loose. I moved them into a tank with 4 Africian cichlids, hoping the cichlids would keep them in line. All the cichlids did was make them angry, and the morning after they were moved into the tank I found one of the cichlids dead with his lip ripped off. They now reside with my gobies in a 25 gal. hex tank, the gobies either ignore them, or chase them away when they get too close. I made the mistake of putting 3 albino cories in as a cleanup crew, but they only lasted 1 day before their fins were all but gone. I now use large snails as a cleanup crew (hoping they will breed and supply my pufferpack with free treats). Until the snails breed I feed them 10 small snails once a month, they go wild for them.:D
 
I agree, puffers in general always seem to be the most intellectual (rather than intelligent) species of fish I keep. they are very personable and social, at least IME. I second pufferpunks recomendation of gettng some of the other puffers available. colomesus asellus is another puffer that can get along in community setups and is also fresh water, they get a little bit bigger that the FWD puffers do.


Firsttanks, are you sure you're talking about FW dwarf puffers? I couldn't imagine these guys ripping the lips off a cichlid they are probably the most easy going puffers I've ever kept. I've kept them with bettas, dwarf gouramis, asst tetras and currently in my 35 gal planted tank with 4 cories and 12 harelquen rasboras, my pack of 6 (4 F, 2 M) pretty much stay to themsleves. It sounds to me like you may have the more common Green spotted puffer.
 
Nope, they are "Tetraodon travancorius", and everyone I speak with are a little surprised how aggressige these little darlings can get when provoked. Left to their own devises they are playfull and like to chase each other around, with only minor nipping. Other fish, as I mentioned, are used as an Amusement ride for them, but with no real malice on the part of the puffers just good fun.
I suspect with the cichlids, they tried to bully one or more of the puffers and the whole pack got fed up with them and made an example of one. When we checked on them in the morning the other 3 cichlids were staying pretty much to one corner of the tank, and the pack was cruising around like they didn't have a care in the world :D :p :D ...lesson learned! It was then that they got their own tank.

Here's a pic for you, excuse the quality as the little darlings are camera shy and won't stay still.
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